Ohio St.(11-9) vs. Nebraska (15-6) Game Thread

[All About the Corn]

Well it was hard to sit in the stands and watch the second half. Certainly we need to upgrade our athleticism but if we had sound fundamentals it would not be such a glaring problem. We lack that senior leadership on the court. Reading the thread about Doyle and Whitish and agree 100%. This is the time seniors need to step up and it is not happening. Hannah and Nicea should want the ball in their hands (in the second half when the game is in the balance) at this point and lead the way. Instead we have two sophomores in Sam and Leigha who sometimes look good and then have sophomore moments. This will help in the next couple of years but does little for us right now.  My son came to watch yesterdays game. First time he saw them and said pretty much the same things we have talked about. Part of what needs to happen is a change in culture. The great teams have a culture in place that all players learn from. Take the VB team for example. Granted Cook gets and has higher rated players than the BB team but he spends a lot of time working with the team captains. Helping them to learn and understand the culture expected at NE. They pass along to the underclass and year after year they play at a high level. The same can be done with BB. When you come into a coaching change the culture needs to come from the staff. Granted the first year we had player(s) who did not want to follow the change in culture. Year two we had strong senior leadership and it showed. Last year they really was very little senior leadership. But leadership does not just need to come from your seniors. That falls back to the coaches to help guide your juniors into that role. The last two games Hannah and Nicea needed to take charge in the second half. Sam and Leigha should not be putting up 15 shots a game unless they happen to be on. Hannah was 4 of 8. How many came after half? Nicea has her moments on the offense end but we all know she is our primary defensive stopper. We did not take the game to OSU in the second half. Too much standing on offense and too much watching on the defensive end. That falls back to the coaches. Amy needs to better use her time outs and not save most of them for the last 3-4 minutes of a game. These last two games falls on both players and coaches.

[12dozen]

We seem to be challenged by basic fundamentals of the game.  Rebounding and defensive positioning.  Offensive spacing and flow. Forced, and ill advised passes. Careless dribbling. Turnovers galore. Value the possession.  These are recurring concerns. 

    

Regardless of athleticism, sound basketball can be taught.  Not seeing it on the court.  No amount of senior leadership, is going to fix this overnight.        

        

[whoopdeedoo]

30 minutes ago, 12dozen said:

We seem to be challenged by basic fundamentals of the game.  Rebounding and defensive positioning.  Offensive spacing and flow. Forced, and ill advised passes. Careless dribbling. Turnovers galore. Value the possession.  These are recurring concerns. 

    

Regardless of athleticism, sound basketball can be taught.  Not seeing it on the court.  No amount of senior leadership, is going to fix this overnight.        

        

very true...................they have their quarters/halves, then, everything seems to go out the window. that's where the staff has to get a grip on things.

[All About the Corn]

When the culture and basic game is not translating to your players then you need to look at yourself and your staff. Amy will have some decisions to make in the off season.

Edited February 3, 2020 by All About the Corn

[Redhac]

Below are NE stats for the game against Ohio State. In the far right column I have added how many points each player had at the end of the first half.  In the 3rd quarter plus fourth quarter plus the overtime, NE only scored 25 points.  Whitish and Brown each scored 6 after the half and Cain only 4!!  Haiby only 2, Bourne 3, and Verbeek none!

I reviewed the play by play by play information and found that from the end of the first half, the team missed 11 three  pointers and only made 2!  I also counted the missed jump shots which totaled 7 and the missed layups which totaled 15!!!!!!  Some of those were contested or non-called fouls but non-the-less far too many missed shots!!!!!!   What is also disturbing is the coaching staff's failure to call a time out to right the ship until 1:40 was left in regulation!!!!!!!  With 3:48 left in the 3rd quarter, Ohio State had closed the NE lead to 55-51 but no time called by then!!!  In the fourth quarter at 6:35 left, Ohio State had again closed the gap to 4 points at the 7:01 mark in the 4th quarter and subsequently to 2 points at 61-59 at 5:39.   So a first time out was finally called at 1:40 in the 4th quarter with NE up 68-66!!!  Nebraska was out-rebounded again 64-49;  had 4 more turnovers at 18; had 9 steals to their 13; and likely only stat won was blocks 12 to 9.

      Other posts above mentioned looking at possible assistant changes.  At some point, the head coach has to be held accountable for the less than desired performances at Michigan State, Minnesota, and this last Ohio State game!!!!!   The coaches either need to get with it or get if they can not coach the players up plus recruit more quickness!!!

Nebraska 74--- Ohio St 84

 

##	Player	GS	MIN	FG	3PT	FT	ORB-DRB	REB	PF	A	TO	BLK	STL	GM PTS	PTS @half
03	Whitish, Hannah	*	36	4-8	3-7	5-5	0-5	5	3	1	4	0	4	16	10
31	Cain,Kate	*	34	6-8	0-0	2-2	2-11	13	3	0	6	8	0	14	10
05	Eliely, Nicea	*	33	3-11	2-6	1-2	1-2	3	0	3	0	1	2	9	5
04	Haiby,Sam	*	28	2-10	1-2	2-2	0-6	6	1	7	0	0	1	7	5
13	Veerbeek,Ashtyn	*	18	0-5	0-1	2-2	1-4	5	3	0	3	0	0	2	2
34	Bourne, Isabelle		27	4-14	1-3	4-5	1-3	4	1	0	2	3	2	13	10
32	Brown, Leigha		28	3-11	0-2	3-6	1-4	5	3	3	2	0	0	9	3
02	Brady, Trinity		10	1-2	1-2	1-2	0-1	1	0	0	1	0	0	4	4
44	Mershon, Kayla		11	0-0	0-0	0-0	1-1	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0
TM	TEAM		0	0-0	0-0	0-0	4-1	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
	TOTALS	-	225	23-69	8-23	20-26	11-38	49	15	14	18	12	9	74	49

Team Summary	FG	3PT	FT
1st Quarter	9-16	3-5	4-5
	56.25 %	60.00 %	80.00 %
2nd Quarter	8-15	3-5	5-6
	53.33 %	60.00 %	83.33 %
3rd Quarter	1-12	0-7	8-11
	8.33 %	0.00 %	72.73 %
4th Quarter	3-16	1-3	2-2
	18.75 %	33.33 %	100.00 %
OT 1	2-10	1-3	1-2
	20.00 %	33.33 %	50.00 %
Total	23-69	8-23	20-26
	33.3 %	34.8 %	76.9 %

 

 

[All About the Corn]

Amy should be having some sleepless nights after these last two games. Game management by her has not been good. Thanks for the post Redhac!