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58 UTEP (27-8)
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Head coach: Doc Sadler
Western Athletic Conference
 
 

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Stats include games against D-I teams only
Category Offense Defense D-I Avg
Adj. Efficiency 112.7 32 101.1 130 102.7
Adj. Tempo 65.9 172 66.1
Four Factors
Effective FG%: 51.5 68 49.6 179 49.3
Turnover %: 18.0 26 22.2 101 21.3
Off. Reb. %: 31.8 185 30.9 105 35.5
FTA/FGA: 39.4 93 31.4 68 36.5
Miscellaneous Components
3P%: 36.8 63 33.4 94 34.6
2P%: 50.0 76 49.3 210 48.0
FT%: 79.3 1 68.1 134 68.7
Block%: 10.4 266 7.5 204 8.8
Steal%: 7.8 11 10.9 122 10.4
Style Components
3PA/FGA: 28.8 263 33.3 178 33.0
A/FGM: 63.5 27 57.9 229 55.7
Defensive Fingerprint: Inconclusive  
Point Distribution (% of total points)
3-Pointers: 23.6 263 27.7 167 27.7
2-Pointers: 53.1 143 54.6 73 52.0
Free Throws: 23.3 34 17.7 274 20.3
Strength of Schedule
Components: 102.2 190 102.9 150 102.7
Overall: -0.68 169 0.00
Non-conference: -5.30 290 0.00

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Game Plan | Opponent Tracker

Date Opponent Result     Location Record Conf  
Sun Nov 21 209 Delaware St. W, 83-50 64   Home 1-0    
Tue Nov 23 299 Jackson St. W, 83-57 75   Home 2-0    
Fri Nov 26 70 Arizona St. W, 66-65 66   Neutral 3-0   b.gif
Sat Nov 27 29 Southern Illinois L, 68-62 66   Neutral 3-1   a.gif
Tue Nov 30 292 IPFW W, 67-58 64   Home 4-1    
Sat Dec 4 32 Texas Tech L, 72-57 77   Home 4-2   b.gif
Sun Dec 12 NR Panhandle St. Oklahoma W, 69-44 61   Home 5-2    
Wed Dec 15 271 New Mexico St. W, 75-64 68   Away 6-2    
Sat Dec 18 271 New Mexico St. W, 79-61 66   Home 7-2    
Tue Dec 21 NR Occidental W, 72-46 61   Home 8-2    
Mon Dec 27 301 Alabama St. W, 89-57 78   Home 9-2    
Tue Dec 28 142 Princeton W, 68-42 55   Home 10-2    
Sat Jan 1 214 Boise St. W, 91-77 63   Away 11-2 1-0  
Thu Jan 6 91 Rice W, 96-67 76   Home 12-2 2-0  
Sat Jan 8 177 Tulsa W, 105-70 79   Home 13-2 3-0  
Wed Jan 12 55 Nevada W, 83-80 74 OT Away 14-2 4-0 a.gif
Sat Jan 15 168 Fresno St. L, 66-63 63   Away 14-3 4-1  
Thu Jan 20 127 Hawaii W, 71-70 67   Home 15-3 5-1  
Sat Jan 22 280 San Jose St. W, 69-65 65   Home 16-3 6-1  
Thu Jan 27 130 SMU W, 60-55 56   Away 17-3 7-1 b.gif
Sat Jan 29 150 Louisiana Tech L, 80-65 70   Away 17-4 7-2  
Thu Feb 3 177 Tulsa L, 65-54 70   Away 17-5 7-3  
Sat Feb 5 91 Rice W, 73-71 69   Away 18-5 8-3 b.gif
Thu Feb 10 168 Fresno St. W, 93-80 70   Home 19-5 9-3  
Sat Feb 12 55 Nevada L, 62-60 64   Home 19-6 9-4 b.gif
Wed Feb 16 280 San Jose St. W, 70-62 60   Away 20-6 10-4  
Sat Feb 19 40 Pacific L, 73-66 65   Away 20-7   a.gif
Mon Feb 21 127 Hawaii W, 71-67 57   Away 21-7 11-4 b.gif
Fri Feb 25 150 Louisiana Tech W, 89-69 68   Home 22-7 12-4  
Sun Feb 27 130 SMU W, 79-74 64   Home 23-7 13-4  
Sat Mar 5 214 Boise St. W, 78-64 71   Home 24-7 14-4  
Western Athletic Conference Tournament
Thu Mar 10 127 Hawaii W, 80-62 68   Neutral 25-7    
Fri Mar 11 91 Rice W, 85-77 69   Neutral 26-7   b.gif
Sat Mar 12 214 Boise St. W, 91-78 72   Neutral 27-7    
NCAA Tournament - 11 seed
Thu Mar 17 20 Utah L, 60-54 62   Neutral 27-8   a.gif

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5 hours ago, kldm64 said:

 

Not necessarily.  They have been friends for a long time and sometimes it's easier to hire people you know as opposed to the best coaches out there. 

 

Overall coaching record of 205 - 201 (.505%)  = Average Coach

Personally, I thought his end of game management was lacking but all in all a good coach of the fundamentals, X's & O's, and inspiring (threatening at times?) athletes to play with great effort. In today's game though recruiting is an indispensable skill needed to be a head coach at a high level. His inability to bring in players that were equal in ability to most conference opponents was his downfall. You can excel in one part of your job but still have weaknesses in other areas.

 

Hoiberg got fired from his last coaching job. There will be a honeymoon but if he isn't successful here with the resources given, he will be fired again. When your job is on the line, you don't bring in incompetent people because they are your friends. Our current head coach has acknowledged that defense is not a particular strength. Doc is here to teach defense. No matter what other weaknesses he had as a head coach, Hoiberg hired him because he thought Doc excels at that aspect of coaching. Liking your  co-workers is a is definitely a benefit, but you don't stay a D-1 head coach if you base your hires off of people you already know and like.

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2 hours ago, 49r said:

@Norm Peterson I believe what @kldm64 was saying there was that Doc was handed a very good team at UTEP by Billy Gillespie.  Which, I believe he was.

 

That's not the way I read it, but if that's what he meant, it would certainly be more accurate because Doc inherited an absolute dumpster fire when he took over here.

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On ‎8‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 7:24 PM, Dean Smith said:

Personally, I thought his end of game management was lacking but all in all a good coach of the fundamentals, X's & O's, and inspiring (threatening at times?) athletes to play with great effort. In today's game though recruiting is an indispensable skill needed to be a head coach at a high level. His inability to bring in players that were equal in ability to most conference opponents was his downfall. You can excel in one part of your job but still have weaknesses in other areas.

 

Hoiberg got fired from his last coaching job. There will be a honeymoon but if he isn't successful here with the resources given, he will be fired again. When your job is on the line, you don't bring in incompetent people because they are your friends. Our current head coach has acknowledged that defense is not a particular strength. Doc is here to teach defense. No matter what other weaknesses he had as a head coach, Hoiberg hired him because he thought Doc excels at that aspect of coaching. Liking your  co-workers is a is definitely a benefit, but you don't stay a D-1 head coach if you base your hires off of people you already know and like.

 

If he isn't successful - given that we still have a newish arena and facilities, an apparent upswing in in-state talent, a full share of Big Ten money, and that he is the highest profile coach we've ever had and the only reason we had a shot at getting him was because of family connections - if he isn't successful, it would probably be time for everyone to make peace with the fact that we'll probably never be any good.

 

I'm betting on success, though. Two hundred and seventy other schools have won an NCAA tournament game (or some number around that), so it really can't be that difficult, especially if you have a reasonable level of competence.

 

I'm not disagreeing with anything stated above, but I am saying that this doesn't work, probably nothing will.

Edited by Dead Dog Alley

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54 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

That's not the way I read it, but if that's what he meant, it would certainly be more accurate because Doc inherited an absolute dumpster fire when he took over here.

 

Yes, I meant at UTEP.  Sorry I might not have been clear on that.  I totally understand he was not handed a great team at NU.  UTEP was his only school he had a decent record at but that was mainly due to the situation he inherited and he was only head coach for 2 years.

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2 hours ago, kldm64 said:

 

Yes, I meant at UTEP.  Sorry I might not have been clear on that.  I totally understand he was not handed a great team at NU.  UTEP was his only school he had a decent record at but that was mainly due to the situation he inherited and he was only head coach for 2 years.

 

OK, I misunderstood you. I figured you were too aware to think Doc took over a good situation here.

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9 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

OK, I misunderstood you. I figured you were too aware to think Doc took over a good situation here.

 

No worries.  My point was that I was excited about Doc coming to NU based on what he did at UTEP but looking back, realized his record there might have had more to do with the talented team he was handed.  Over time at NU, it was clear he was not the coach that was going to excite the NU fan base or get NU basketball to where we would all like it to be.

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17 hours ago, kldm64 said:

 

How else would you judge him since he has been a head coach at 3 different schools?  Hard to say whether he is a good or bad assistant coach as not sure what you measure that on? 

 

Boiling Doc down to a winning percentage seems like a disservice given how well known he is. It's common knowledge that he's an excellent defensive coach and a below average recruiter which can be backed up by his KenPom numbers and the fact that none of the guys he recruited (at least at Nebraska) sniffed the NBA.

 

Doc's strengths of defense, experience, and ability to take some of the microscope off of Hoiberg makes him a pretty complementary coach to the staff that otherwise seems that it should be good on the offensive side and in recruiting.

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1 hour ago, Husker4theSpurs said:

Doc himself said he is a good defensive coach and a mediocre offensive coach. Seems to me Hoiberg coaches offense, Sadler coaches D, and Gates and (especially) Abdelmassih focus on recruiting.

 

So that leaves Lutz.  What does he do?

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Heres how I understand the coaches' responsibilities so far:

 

- Fred Hoiberg: Head Coach and Offense

- Bobby Lutz: Offensive Assistant

- Armon Gates: Player relations, in state recruiter, and works with PGs

- Doc Sadler: Defensive Coordinator 

- Matt A: Transfer recruiter and player relations

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16 hours ago, 49r said:

 

So that leaves Lutz.  What does he do?

 

He reportedly watches a lot of game tape and cuts that up for Hoiberg in addition to some of the DOBO stuff that needed to be done before Luca got here.

Is he involved with practice or any development training?

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3 hours ago, HuskerActuary said:

Hasn't there been concern about Samari Curtis's shot? Just how bad is it? I didn't catch any of the Italy streamed games.

 

It's accurate but ugly. Very ugly. Coyote ugly. It looks like a chest pass. But it goes in at a pretty high clip and, if he has plenty of space, apparently he can get it off as well.

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16 hours ago, 49r said:

 

So that leaves Lutz.  What does he do?

 

Well, since Matt A is an ace recruiter, you have to have him named as an assistant coach so he can get out on the road. But, since he's not really a hoops guy, you bring in a guy like Lutz to do the coaching that the recruiting assistant would be doing if he was more of a coach and less of a recruiter. It's weird but I think that's what the rules require. You can have a non-coach doing coaching, but you can't have a non-coach doing recruiting on the road.

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18 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

It's accurate but ugly. Very ugly. Coyote ugly. It looks like a chest pass. But it goes in at a pretty high clip and, if he has plenty of space, apparently he can get it off as well.

 

Please don't change that shot

 

Thanks,

The Nick Fuller Foundation for guys who had their shots broken in college

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7 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

It's accurate but ugly. Very ugly. Coyote ugly. It looks like a chest pass. But it goes in at a pretty high clip and, if he has plenty of space, apparently he can get it off as well.

I haven’t seen him shoot, but dammit if I didn’t laugh at this description!

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