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7 hours ago, Huskerpapa said:

We have a new coach, a new system and a number of players coming in that are being brought in because they fit that style.  Is that correct?  If true, if that new coach identifies a player or players that likely do not fit that new system, isn't it fair and reasonable to have a discussion with that player or players advising them of that observation.  As a player, I likely would not like to hear that observation, it is only natural.  But wouldn't it be better to hear that information now, and then a decision can be made to stay or go?

 

My current take is that conversation likely took place with Brady, Thor and Amir.  The conversation could have been that the new Nebraska system will be fast pace with a premium placed on the three point shot.  Does Brady, Thor and Amir have that three-point game?  Amir and Thor may have taken that critique and said they want to stick it out and prove they can adapt.  Brady may have taken the critique as I want you out of here and is leaving.

 

Sure, there may have been more texture to the discussions or the discussions may have been entirely different.  But I am not about to critique a new staff for wanting their players.  Coaches, especially today, must prove themselves sooner rather than later, and to have to wait a year or two before you have "your own" players can create fan bases and administrators to become fractured; which seems to be a familiar theme here.

Exactly.  The guy is being paid over $3M and expected to win and take this program to the next level. If he sees fit that someone is not a fit for progress and is wasting both sides time by staying and not continuing to contribute than so be it.  I dont see the lost players as a big loss at this point. 

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They're not.

 

Could brady have become a solid B1G player?  Yeah probably.  I don't think anyone was disappointed in him overall.

 

But do we really want to wait 3 years for a solid player in the age of transfers that can get you a new one every year if that's what you want?

 

When you get in that loop you're talking about being a good TEAM roughly every 3-4 years... and when things go bad (see: last year) you end up waiting 6-8 years for real runs.

 

Miles built a solid team... that collapsed due to injuries.   Hoiberg wants to build a consistently good team.  Yeah you'll have bad stuff happen but it will be less devastating.

 

The people complaining can't see the forest for the trees.  It would be one thing if he was a superstar type guy.. but he isn't. 

 

And fit matters.  Period.

 

Note:  I concentrated on Brady because well.. Nebraska is Nebraska and they'll defend the hardworking hometown kid every time.  Even if the team is better off in a different direction.

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The bottom line is that most who post on this board are too rational to be newsworthy. News items today must be  "bombshells" which outrage , demean, or denigrate some segment of the audience in order to be worthy of attention. The players who were mentioned all seem to be good kids, and the new staff is simply trying to succeed in the job they accepted. Let's just wish them all well with their decisions and turn the page.

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17 minutes ago, jimmykc said:

The bottom line is that most who post on this board are too rational to be newsworthy. News items today must be  "bombshells" which outrage , demean, or denigrate some segment of the audience in order to be worthy of attention. The players who were mentioned all seem to be good kids, and the new staff is simply trying to succeed in the job they accepted. Let's just wish them all well with their decisions and turn the page.

There you go using reason.

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On 5/4/2019 at 9:09 PM, khoock said:

The LJS and OWH quote Brady himself saying he was asked to leave.

 

This Hoiberg speech really sounds a lot like the reputed Miles one; you tell a guy that he's not going to play and that maybe he should look elsewhere.  You can say that the coach isn't asking you to leave, but he essentially is.  I suppose you could things were embellished by the OWH but I don't really care all that much since Brady got his name leaked out the day before.  I know it's a Nebraska kid we're talking about but that's mitigated by the fact that we have two other NE kids coming and Hoiberg is still walking on water.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Husker4theSpurs said:

Heard Amir and Karrington were asked to leave last weekend.

 

1 minute ago, hhcmatt said:

Can confirm

 

From what I've read (OWH, LJS), Hoiberg, as a first-year head coach, can elect to non-renew players' scholarships. But it appears he has asked players to move on, they've refused, and he's just renewing their scholarship(s); but Brady got the hint and is transferring? And Thor was NOT asked to leave?

 

I'm really curious how those conversations go.

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10 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

No. He was not asked to leave.

Interesting.

 

Many on here (including myself) thought he was probably the least likely to be retained out of the underclassmen. Wish we could pick Hoiberg's brain more on the issue.

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14 minutes ago, khoock said:

Interesting.

 

Many on here (including myself) thought he was probably the least likely to be retained out of the underclassmen. Wish we could pick Hoiberg's brain more on the issue.

 

I also wouldn't have bought a Thor lottery ticket.

I wonder how much the signing of Banton on Wednesday changed things and how much guys who are ready to commit but haven't publicly done so has changed things.  I suspect that when Robin reported those names that was originally a plan and things changed.

 

Until they actually do change, the coaches and players on here are currently N.  It's safe to say that Johnny Trueblood is no longer on the team though in theory that too can change.

 

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21 minutes ago, khoock said:

Interesting.

 

Many on here (including myself) thought he was probably the least likely to be retained out of the underclassmen. Wish we could pick Hoiberg's brain more on the issue.

 

If I had to guess, Thor's situation is slightly different from Amir's and Karrington's.  Karrington is a freshman. If he stayed, he'd hold that spot 4 seasons.  Harris would hold his 3.  Thor only has 2 more years of eligibility.

 

That might or might not be the difference that mattered to Hoiberg.

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18 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

If I had to guess, Thor's situation is slightly different from Amir's and Karrington's.  Karrington is a freshman. If he stayed, he'd hold that spot 4 seasons.  Harris would hold his 3.  Thor only has 2 more years of eligibility.

 

That might or might not be the difference that mattered to Hoiberg.

Great take Norm.  Nothing else makes sense to me.  Thor was putting up some serious bricks from 3 last year; his skillset is somewhat similar to a less athletic Amir Harris....great hustle and intensity; poor shooting.

 

the Frenchman did have that tweet that said Thor.... maybe they are a package deal 😜

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23 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

If I had to guess, Thor's situation is slightly different from Amir's and Karrington's.  Karrington is a freshman. If he stayed, he'd hold that spot 4 seasons.  Harris would hold his 3.  Thor only has 2 more years of eligibility.

 

That might or might not be the difference that mattered to Hoiberg.

Thor's scholarship could open up after next season as well. His ties overseas make the possibility of him jumping ship to some Icelandic pro team a real possibility. That could have also factored in as well.

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24 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

If I had to guess, Thor's situation is slightly different from Amir's and Karrington's.  Karrington is a freshman. If he stayed, he'd hold that spot 4 seasons.  Harris would hold his 3.  Thor only has 2 more years of eligibility.

 

That might or might not be the difference that mattered to Hoiberg.

Norm and Busticket and knoock may be on to something.  I have a vague recollection of discussions, when Thor signed, about the importance of him getting a degree and then jumping to a european pro team (maybe even in three years).  But the closest support I can find for the idea is this:

 

Thorbjarnarson, besides his international experience, also has played as an amateur in Iceland’s professional league.

His family is accomplished academically. His father is a liaison to NATO, his mother and one brother are attorneys and another brother is an economist.

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Good point on Thor potentially going pro.  If I am not mistaken, Creighton’s freshman from Australia (Sampson) left to go pro back in Australia.  Reasonable to think Thor could do the same.

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37 minutes ago, busticket said:

Good point on Thor potentially going pro.  If I am not mistaken, Creighton’s freshman from Australia (Sampson) left to go pro back in Australia.  Reasonable to think Thor could do the same.

We had Jack do that very thing last year. 

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4 hours ago, coughunter said:

He did say on his ketv interview that they would probably be the only team in the country that has no players that have scored for NE so take that fwiw.......

 

Yeah, I thought that little nugget was pretty telling on how Freddy feels about the prospects of Roby returning. As in, nearly nil.

 

 

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