rr52 269 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Agsker said: I’m an Aggie fan. The Nevada players and coaches are in the wrong. It started with the coaches getting into an argument. The Nevada players then tried to run into the Utah state tunnel to start a fight with the Utah state players. When the truth comes out Nevada will most likely be in some trouble for the poor way they acted and were allowed to act after the game. That video shows the team after they tried to go brawl with the other team. Videos are out there. No proof of anybody touching any players, that is just was is assumed by the media. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Security actually directed Nevada to the Utah St. locker area for security reasons. And per Mountain West Conference "Inappropriate conduct by individuals from both programs in the postgame handshake line and subsequently in the locker room areas created the unfortunate circumstances" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
royalfan 1,643 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Norm Peterson said: It's refreshing to know how easy it is to win in basketball at Nebraska. You just need a guy who isn't outmatched on the game strategies, understands analytics to overcome the lack of talent, and can recruit or have a staff that excels at it. It's that simple. I think I found a picture of our next coach: Surprised that you would not want those qualities. Adding BS commentary to make me look foolish is cool. We can play that game if you want. Edited March 5, 2019 by royalfan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
royalfan 1,643 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Klas3131 said: With all due respect, royal, it appears that if someone disagrees with you, they have poor reading comprehension skills, or are unable to grasp what you are talking about. I think that may be what is causing some annoyance. Just the way I'm seeing it. In this case, it was exactly that. They did not comprehend my point. If I didn't explain it clearly enough for them, that is on me. I felt that I did. And it certainly caused me some annoyance. Edited March 5, 2019 by royalfan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
royalfan 1,643 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Norm Peterson said: "It is five people folks. It is not that hard to win here. We just haven't found the right coach." Finding the "right coach" seems to be the hard part. Certainly has been of late. Which one did you think was a good coach? Getting the conversation going on twitter as well. Very curious who you think has been a good coach. Edited March 5, 2019 by royalfan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
royalfan 1,643 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, busticket said: I guess I refuse to believe we can’t do better. It all depends on hiring the right coach. Exhibit A of what it looks like when you have a string of bad coaching hires is our football program. All the resources in the world and poor results the last 2 decades. You have to get the right coach. Other than tradition we have lots to offer; we have great facilities, great fans and money. It just can’t be that hard to recruit here. Creighton has been in the Big East for a cup of coffee and they have 6 top 150 recruits on their current roster as well as 2 highly regarded foreign big men. If we get a coach kids buy into, whether it is the system or he is a hell of a likeable guy, there is no reason we can’t recruit at the level Creighton is. I just don’t know who this mystery guy is. No sir, it cannot be done. We haven't done it, so it cannot happen. dustystehl 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
royalfan 1,643 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Ron Mexico said: It's a head coaching grave yard, and 1 assistant in 20yrs does not a pattern make. It just further illuminates the futility of this program. That is because they have not been good coaches. A good coach can win here. You don't think so. Many of us do. We can agree to disagree. We don't know, because we haven't had one. Elytron, dustystehl, imnothipp and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
busticket 418 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Does anyone find it ironic that a lot of us would love to have Thad Matta, and he was Barry Collier’s right hand man at Butler? He was Barry’s Craig Smith. Makes me wonder if we should take Craig Smith more seriously. royalfan and throwback 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
royalfan 1,643 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, busticket said: Does anyone find it ironic that a lot of us would love to have Thad Matta, and he was Barry Collier’s right hand man at Butler? He was Barry’s Craig Smith. Makes me wonder if we should take Craig Smith more seriously. It is interesting. I don't love the idea due to the breakup with Miles, but at least we would know that we had the brains behind the only team to make the dance in a long long time. And it was with a team without much program development. I can see scenarios where that hire would work out well. It would not be near the top of my list of preferences though. dustystehl and lanigan123 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norm Peterson 9,809 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 9 hours ago, royalfan said: Surprised that you would not want those qualities. Adding BS commentary to make me look foolish is cool. We can play that game if you want. I do want those qualities. I just don't think it's as simple as you make it seem. Sorry if my attempt at humor offended you. Ron Mexico 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colhusker 3,403 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 17 hours ago, MilesDavis said: Fair enough, but I'm guessing they didn't all obtain that history in the first place with a bunch of guys from their own states. We got 99 problems, but in-state talent ain't one. (OK it is one of the 99 problems, but it's not close to the top of the list of problems if you ask me.) Until we actually start signing the best players in this state and losing with them, we shouldn't be whining about our lack of in-state talent. Creighton has been doing just fine with Nebraska kids sprinkled in here and there every year. Treshawn Thurman (6'8") had a good career going at UNO and then transferred to Nevada. He is averaging 7.8 points and 5.7 boards. You can't complain about lack of in-state talent when you don't even attempt to get the ones you do have. Agree that this staff dropped the ball to long on local talent that would have developed at worse a bench/depth for when injures or illnesses occur. For the record, I am not one of the any new hire HAS to have Nebraska ties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colhusker 3,403 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 18 hours ago, hhcmatt said: If Lue is out of the picture are there any other former NBA coaches who make sense? Matt I hope if there are, they also have some experience with recruiting or know assistants that can recruit like hell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nebrasketball10 164 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, royalfan said: Certainly has been of late. Which one did you think was a good coach? Getting the conversation going on twitter as well. Very curious who you think has been a good coach. Barry was a good X’s and O’s coach. No personality. Doc was a good coach who struggled to recruit. Part of that might’ve been related to largely below average assistants, which reflects on the coach (and the budget). Miles was a good recruiter and personality. If we could meld the last three coaches into one coach, maybe we have something.... Edited March 5, 2019 by nebrasketball10 rr52, royalfan and ConkintheCorner 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LK1 1,684 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 We need a bonafide system that recruits a specific type of player at each spot. It needs to be unique and difficult to prepare for. Teams like Wisconsin, Virginia, Syracuse, etc typically can afford to have less than elite recruiting classes and make up for them with an identity/system in place that is effective and refined over the course of a season. Ron Mexico, cornfed24-7, Blindcheck and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ConkTrifecta3 80 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Moos has 1 job: Hire someone who has won in the NCAA tournament with a major D1 school. Thats it. Don’t screw it up. kimaniismyffriend and thrasher31 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HuskerFever 7,329 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, ConkTrifecta3 said: Moos has 1 job: Hire someone who has won in the NCAA tournament with a major D1 school. Thats it. Don’t screw it up. That might upset the Tyronn Lue fans out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ConkTrifecta3 80 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, HuskerFever said: That might upset the Tyronn Lue fans out there. Lue isnt coming here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HuskerFever 7,329 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, ConkTrifecta3 said: Lue isnt coming here There's a very high probably that neither will any of our top 10 choices. The coaching community is small. We're going to have to provide more than just a monetary incentive for some coaches to take a chance on us. Ron Mexico 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khoock 1,464 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 I think we should be able to get a quality coach. We have good facilities, great support, and Miles showed that you can bring in top 150 kids (both out of hs and through transfers). If we offer up a competitive pay the only thing we are missing is the bball history. Not saying we are a glamorous destination, but we arent the bottom of the barrel imo either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HuskerFever 7,329 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, khoock said: Not saying we are a glamorous destination, but we arent the bottom of the barrel imo either. I agree with that. If Moos has exhausted his contact list at this point, I think it all comes down to what other jobs are open in the offseason and how NU and the coaches' agents are selling the program. It's also possible that Moos already has it figured out and we just have to wait for the season to end for an announcement, one way or another. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KZRider 224 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 12 hours ago, royalfan said: Certainly has been of late. Which one did you think was a good coach? Getting the conversation going on twitter as well. Very curious who you think has been a good coach. FWIW I think Doc Sadler was a pretty good floor coach but he wasn't able to recruit the players he needed and I suppose that disqualifies him as a good coach overall. But the man knew basketball and that made his inability to win here was tough to watch. If we could just somehow mash Doc Sadler and Tim Miles into the same suit that would be something to see IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HuskerFever 7,329 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, KZRider said: If we could just somehow mash Doc Sadler and Tim Miles into the same suit that would be something to see IMO. You're right...that would be something to see! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hhcmatt 13,406 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 hours ago, nebrasketball10 said: Barry was a good X’s and O’s coach. No personality. Doc was a good coach who struggled to recruit. Part of that might’ve been related to largely below average assistants, which reflects on the coach (and the budget). Miles was a good recruiter and personality. If we could meld the last three coaches into one coach, maybe we have something.... Moos mentioned recruiting being important I think while the AD here but he also mentioned it after he fired Ken Bone. https://dailyevergreen.com/4142/sports/bill-moos-talks-future-of-wsu-basketball/ The last paragraph....woof. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avfan2121 60 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, khoock said: I think we should be able to get a quality coach. We have good facilities, great support, and Miles showed that you can bring in top 150 kids (both out of hs and through transfers). If we offer up a competitive pay the only thing we are missing is the bball history. Not saying we are a glamorous destination, but we arent the bottom of the barrel imo either. This is true of most P5 schools. Especially in the Big Ten. What does Nebraska have to offer that makes the job attractive, which is unique and outweighs the negatives of the program? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HoiBall 151 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, avfan2121 said: This is true of most P5 schools. Especially in the Big Ten. What does Nebraska have to offer that makes the job attractive, which is unique and outweighs the negatives of the program? 15,000 people that show up to watch bad basketball. There are top 15 teams that struggle to draw 7,000 fans. You win at Nebraska you're going to get support like you see at Kentucky, UNC, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cornfed24-7 260 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, avfan2121 said: What does Nebraska have to offer that makes the job attractive, which is unique and outweighs the negatives of the program? I really have no idea the size of contract they offer the next coach. The consensus among articles/opinion pieces and message boards seem to suggest people generally believe NU is in a position to offer 3 million per year. For the next point let's assume that's true. So what about length? I say you have to go 6 years. Show the commitment. That's a contract for 18 million. I understand the arguments that its hard to win here. And a coach may believe this is a career killer. I just don't buy that argument now. I think the last 3 coaches I buy it more so. I think if there is really that kind of money coaching candidates would look at all the positives and this is an attractive job. Nothing can be done about history. Nothing can be done about proximity to recruits. But it seems to me about everything that can be done to level the playing field has been done now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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