hskr4life 6,816 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 This thread has certainly taken an interesting turn... wowza. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huskerpapa 4,801 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, wordyginters said: That's cute you guys, your one off anecdotes are heart warming. But I think the only way out is to EAT THE RICH. I can counter your anecdotes with stories of well heeled loons being absolute wankers in social settings that set my teeth on edge. Granted, I've had the misfortune of working in restaurants and retail in college, and as an adult, I spent a decade in the financial service industry. So I haven't seen people at their best. Again, obviously, I'll admit I'm painting with a big brush instead of contributing to the myth of the kind and benevolent rich overlords, but in my experience, the most irrational and demanding customers end up being those with the most money. The fatal flaw is that people who have big bucks think they got there because they are smarter than everyone else, or work harder than everyone else. It's never that simple. Way too easy to overlook the good fortune you've had along the way and think that you are something special. Hell, in this world, if you've got a stable fam situation, 2 parents, and maybe they read to you everyday when you are a kid or make sure you get involved in "enrichment" activities as a kid, you've got a helluva leg up right there. God forbid you have to service investments for some small business dude who made it big and thinks they've got vision and the rest of the world has glasses. Sure. Most folks are decent. Nice even. But in my experience, a noxious attitude towards the great unwashed often lurks beneath the surface. Greed. A lack of humility. A lack of compassion. Hubris. This is what I think of when I think of the 1%. Are there exceptions to the rule? Of course. Your mileage may vary, but I'm basing my opinions on actual real world interactions too. I can't just sit here, on a snow covered Sunday morning, and let people talk about rich people in glowing terms. A bridge too far. With any grouping of people, you will have the good, the bad and the ugly. That observation is age old, and fits any race, religion, class, gender et al. hhcscott, Norm Peterson and Coaches kid 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wordyginters 35 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, DOATHLON said: You sound petty and jelaous. Most people create wealth by utilizing what they have to the fullest, some start with nothing some with a lot. The whiners that think they are smarter than everyone else but "never had the same opportunities" are my favorite life losers cohort. They never take much risk, have little creativity or problem solving skills, don't understand money and sit around all day complaining why they don't have what someone else has. My advice.....stop worrying about how others got somewhere and put that effort into how you can get there. Blah, blah, blah..I would sum up your post thusly: "I like the boot on my face. You should like it too." If you can't see the harm the extremely wealthy have done to this country, then I can't help you. Go Big Red! jdw, Handy Johnson, lanigan123 and 7 others 2 3 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hskr4life 6,816 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, hhcmatt said: Let's keep the 1% talk to the 1% of coaches please and thank you 9 minutes ago, wordyginters said: Blah, blah, blah..I would sum up your post thusly: "I like the boot on my face. You should like it too." If you can't see the harm the extremely wealthy have done to this country, then I can't help you. Go Big Red! I'm not thinking this is the 1% of coaches Matt was talking about.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wordyginters 35 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, hskr4life said: I'm not thinking this is the 1% of coaches Matt was talking about.... When I said Go Big Red! I actually meant that I hope we can attract a coach who has a demonstrated ability to recruit, and who has possibly had success in the NCAA tournament. I should have been more explicit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bugeaters1 4,604 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 We need spring to get here ASAP!!!!! colhusker and Chuck Taylor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tcp 1,978 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bugeaters1 said: We need spring to get here ASAP!!!!! In more ways than one. I need my damn water supply to thaw out. Edited February 24, 2019 by tcp Red Don 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FredsSlacks 945 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, tcp said: In more ways than one. I need my damn water supply to thaw out. do you live on mars? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tcp 1,978 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, TimSmiles said: do you live on mars? Only allegorically. Lincoln's comfortably below freezing and I live in an RV this year. Mr. Red 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norm Peterson 9,809 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 5 hours ago, hhcmatt said: Let's keep the 1% talk to the 1% of coaches please and thank you I’m fine with that. I wasn’t trying to make a political point. Only to echo that my experience is similar to HB’s. I’m sure there are some super rich people out there who are total dicks. But the ones I’ve met were really cool. Ron Mexico 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Johnson 2,034 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Warren Buffet once said, “If you sit down at a poker table & haven’t figured out who the fool is in 30 minutes, it’s you.” As a fellow Husker alum I’d be remiss to argue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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hhcmatt 13,406 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 For the sake of thoroughness Steve Prohm is making $2 a year but his buyout is about $3M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HuskerFever 7,329 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, hskr4life said: I'd probably buy this argument 3 years ago. But when we're watching teams like Nevada, Houston, Auburn, Texas Tech, etc. programs build up their teams in the same or shorter timespan than our current leadership, it's hard not to try to expect as much as the Joneses. thrasher31 and Chuck Taylor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
36red 37 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, HuskerFever said: I'd probably buy this argument 3 years ago. But when we're watching teams like Nevada, Houston, Auburn, Texas Tech, etc. programs build up their teams in the same or shorter timespan than our current leadership, it's hard not to try to expect as much as the Joneses. I do like Tim but Pettit is his buddy. He recommended Miles to Osborne. So there is that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
demone 242 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 hours ago, hskr4life said: I respect Coach Pettit's opinion as stated here and he does make some valid points. Not to turn this into a football discussion, but I had the exact same feeling when Pelini was starting to feel his seat get warm. I look at it from the standpoint of investing in the stock market. On one hand, we bought the stock 7 years ago and while we all wanted it to perform, it just has not panned out for a variety of reasons. One of those reasons was undoubtedly a learning curve for Miles to recruit, coach and run a program at this level. I am not short-changing the learning curve discussion - I do believe the argument has merit. The key question we need to answer is, have the fundamentals of the business (Miles) improved in such a way to make us believe that the investment made 7 years ago will yield market beating returns in the future? On the other hand, if our investment thesis is no longer valid, we sell the stock, take our loss (and there will be a loss, even if we don't recognize it as such) and redeploy the capital into an investment that we believe will perform. I am on the side of selling at this point, but I do believe Pettit makes a reasonable counter-argument. ladyhusker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brfrad 1,671 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 4 hours ago, HuskerFever said: I'd probably buy this argument 3 years ago. But when we're watching teams like Nevada, Houston, Auburn, Texas Tech, etc. programs build up their teams in the same or shorter timespan than our current leadership, it's hard not to try to expect as much as the Joneses. It goes to show you, it is a crapshoot. Nevada hired an NBA HC with no previous experience as a college head coach. Houston and Auburn hired coaches with baggage. Texas Tech hired a mid major coach. jaimes2000 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hal9000 1,243 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 4 hours ago, HuskerFever said: I'd probably buy this argument 3 years ago. But when we're watching teams like Nevada, Houston, Auburn, Texas Tech, etc. programs build up their teams in the same or shorter timespan than our current leadership, it's hard not to try to expect as much as the Joneses. Though most of these schools have a better base of recruiting which is, as Coach Pettit points out, a major challenge for us since we aren't already well established like Kansas, Missouri, or Iowa State. Moos is already working the phones with no doubt the top college coaching candidates in the country. If I'm honest, I can't argue with landing someone big like Hoiberg or Sampson. But I still have a lot of trust in Tim Miles, and if he builds sustained success here, I think he chooses to stick around, unlike the other big names we are trying to attract. My opinion, and it's just mine, is retain him if it doesn't look like there are any takers from the top tier coaches. ladyhusker, Ron Mexico, jaimes2000 and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HuskerFever 7,329 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, hal9000 said: My opinion, and it's just mine, is retain him if it doesn't look like there are any takers from the top tier coaches. I struggle to see how Miles stays in all but one situation. If Moos thinks Miles is the guy for us in the long term, then he'll offer Miles a 3+ year extension. If Moos doesn't think Miles is our guy, then extending Miles' contract one year puts the program at risk of losing fanbase momentum (think Penn State attendance and diminished expectations) and, even worse, just allowing Miles to work his final year of his contract without any extension could leave our program without a coach or any credible interest from other prospects (assuming that's the reason why he was extended one year in the first place). I'm curious to see how this shakes up. And I'm well aware we likely won't get our top 5 wish list, unless someone with ties to the program have a reason to step in this time around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uneblinstu 2,534 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 48 minutes ago, brfrad said: It goes to show you, it is a crapshoot. Nevada hired an NBA HC with no previous experience as a college head coach. Houston and Auburn hired coaches with baggage. Texas Tech hired a mid major coach. Don’t think those are crapshoot successes. hhcmatt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hhcmatt 13,406 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, brfrad said: It goes to show you, it is a crapshoot. Nevada hired an NBA HC with no previous experience as a college head coach. Houston and Auburn hired coaches with baggage. Texas Tech hired a mid major coach. Beard was an assistant under both Knights at Tech for 10 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmykc 3,631 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 That's obviously where he picked up his vocabulary. jdw and hhcmatt 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hhcmatt 13,406 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 For the ultimate sake of thoroughness Greg McDermott's last reported salary in 2016-17 was $1,153M so he probably is making 1.5M these days? We can pay more than most any Big East coach makes but the majority would either not make sense here and/or pick up the phone if they saw a 402 number on the caller id ladyhusker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Number6 14 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 14 hours ago, HuskerFever said: I'd probably buy this argument 3 years ago. But when we're watching teams like Nevada, Houston, Auburn, Texas Tech, etc. programs build up their teams in the same or shorter timespan than our current leadership, it's hard not to try to expect as much as the Joneses. Back in to say we should probably be looking hard at that Nevada coach. lanigan123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmykc 3,631 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I assume you are not referring to Mark Fox (although he is now available). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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