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Taking a cue from @cipsucks I agree we need to move on and start focusing on the next game and getting win #9.  So, I'm starting the scouting thread off with a look at the Cowboys schedule (from KenPom):

 

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Game Plan | Opponent Tracker

Date Rk Opponent Result     Location Record Conf  
Sat Nov 10 62 310 Charlotte L, 66-64 70   Away 0-1    
Wed Nov 14 70 189 UTSA W, 82-60 74   Home 1-1    
Sun Nov 18 65 117 Charleston W, 70-58 69   Home 2-1    
Thu Nov 22 61 118 Memphis W, 84-64 77   Neutral 3-1    
Fri Nov 23 52 16 Villanova L, 77-58 61   Neutral 3-2   a.gif
Sun Nov 25 60 49 LSU W, 90-77 75   Neutral 4-2   a.gif
Fri Nov 30 54 55 Minnesota L, 83-76 76   Semi-Away 4-3   a.gif
Wed Dec 5 53 122 Tulsa L, 74-71 72   Away 4-4   b.gif
Sat Dec 8 58 36 Houston L, 63-53 66   Home 4-5   b.gif
Sun Dec 16   21 Nebraska L, 75-69 69 29% Neutral     a.gif
Fri Dec 21   274 Central Arkansas W, 84-67 74 94% Home      
Sat Dec 29   306 Texas A&M Corpus Chris W, 77-58 68 95% Home      
Wed Jan 2   19 Iowa St. L, 76-73 72 39% Home   × a.gif
Sat Jan 5   33 Oklahoma L, 78-70 74 23% Away   × a.gif
Tue Jan 8   37 Texas L, 71-70 71 49% Home   × b.gif
Sat Jan 12   32 West Virginia L, 79-71 74 23% Away   × a.gif
Mon Jan 14   65 Baylor W, 72-69 70 63% Home   ×  
Sat Jan 19   19 Iowa St. L, 79-69 72 18% Away   × a.gif
Wed Jan 23   33 Oklahoma L, 75-74 74 46% Home   × b.gif
Sat Jan 26   103 South Carolina W, 78-72 75 70% Home      
Sat Feb 2   24 Kansas St. L, 70-68 71 43% Home   × a.gif
Wed Feb 6   30 TCU L, 78-69 72 23% Away   × a.gif
Sat Feb 9   2 Kansas L, 83-67 73 8% Away   × a.gif
Wed Feb 13   12 Texas Tech L, 71-66 70 34% Home   × a.gif
Sat Feb 16   37 Texas L, 74-67 71 26% Away   × a.gif
Mon Feb 18   30 TCU L, 74-73 72 45% Home   × b.gif
Sat Feb 23   24 Kansas St. L, 73-64 71 21% Away   × a.gif
Wed Feb 27   12 Texas Tech L, 74-63 70 15% Away   × a.gif
Sat Mar 2   2 Kansas L, 79-71 73 22% Home   × a.gif
Wed Mar 6   65 Baylor L, 72-69 70 38% Away   × a.gif
Sat Mar 9   32 West Virginia L, 75-74 74 46% Home   × b.gif
Projected record: 13-18 6-12
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...like Creighton, Oklahoma State is very effective shooting the 3 pointer, unlike them, OSU can play some defense:

 

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Data through games of Monday, December 10

 
Category Offense Defense D-I Avg
Adj. Efficiency 106.6 108 96.4 52 103.2
Adj. Tempo 72.4 84 70.2
Avg. Poss. Length 16.6 113 17.3 204 17.1
Four Factors
Effective FG%: 54.2 70 47.9 94 50.5
Turnover %: 21.4 285 21.9 46 19.1
Off. Reb. %: 26.7 244 30.0 228 29.0
FTA/FGA: 33.0 198 30.2 102 34.1
Miscellaneous Components
3P%: 41.6 9 32.9 143 33.8
2P%: 48.8 220 46.9 79 50.4
FT%: 64.2 297 71.9 253 69.5
Block%: 8.3 123 15.3 16 9.3
Steal%: 10.0 271 10.6 59 8.8
Style Components
3PA/FGA: 39.4 158 42.0 266 38.6
A/FGM: 58.3 48 53.9 226 51.8
Defensive Fingerprint: Inconclusive  
Point Distribution (% of total points)
3-Pointers: 38.0 52 35.2 84 31.4
2-Pointers: 45.7 279 46.3 271 49.6
Free Throws: 16.4 267 18.5 195 19.0
Strength of Schedule
Components: 107.0 30 100.4 46 103.2
Overall: +6.54 31 0.00
Non-conference: +6.54 29 0.00
Personnel
Bench Minutes: 29.8% 194 30.5%
Experience: 1.25 yrs 306 1.68
Minutes Continuity: 30.3% 302 47.8%
Average Height: 77.7" 69 76.8"
2-Foul Participation: 12.5% 239 21.9%
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1 hour ago, Norm Peterson said:

Inexcusable for OSU to be 4-5 right now. No way they should have lost at Charlotte or Tulsa.  They should be 6-3 at worst, not 4-5.  This was supposed to be a Q1 win against a top 50 team on a neutral floor and those guys have ruined it. Jerks.

 

After losing to NU Sunday, I'd imagine that OSU will have plenty of opportunities in the Big 12 to pick up some quality wins to boost their NET rankings, eventually. We'll have to wait & see.

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This is easily the best source for info on Okie St basketball on the net

https://pistolsfiringblog.com/category/hoops/

 

Great tidbits like Tulsa throwing a matchup zone against this young team that threw them for a loop (doubtful they have seen 1-3-1)

This thread in general vs Houston was helpful in noting their issue to exploit  https://pistolsfiringblog.com/five-thoughts-on-osus-63-53-loss-to-houston/

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On 12/11/2018 at 7:41 AM, hhcmatt said:

The big loss was the Charlotte game. They had it put away and Charlotte came back at home after being down 14 with 14 to go. (it happens)

 

I forgot about the worst part. Charlotte was down three and Okie St decided to foul them so they wouldn't get the three off.  They were whistled for the flagrant so Charlotte got 2 fts (which they made) and the ball. 

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A friend and I were discussing this game yesterday...and were wondering what the reason is for playing it.  I see that other teams (including big 10 schools) have played there before, but outside of a game what's in it for the team financially?  Are they getting paid big bucks?  I'd think it would it would be hard to get paid a lot given that there's only around 3500 seats in the place and tickets are not that much.  It's not a home and home series...and hell if it was, I think simply from the nostalgia standpoint of the old big 8 it would sell out...just like the Kansas game.  Hopefully we get these guys and ISU on the non conference home schedule in the next few years.  I'd love to be able to see some of the old rivals from the Big 8 at the Vault. 

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1 hour ago, Nighthawk said:

A friend and I were discussing this game yesterday...and were wondering what the reason is for playing it.  I see that other teams (including big 10 schools) have played there before, but outside of a game what's in it for the team financially?  Are they getting paid big bucks?  I'd think it would it would be hard to get paid a lot given that there's only around 3500 seats in the place and tickets are not that much.  It's not a home and home series...and hell if it was, I think simply from the nostalgia standpoint of the old big 8 it would sell out...just like the Kansas game.  Hopefully we get these guys and ISU on the non conference home schedule in the next few years.  I'd love to be able to see some of the old rivals from the Big 8 at the Vault. 

A recent article that was published indicated that Nebraska will receive $100,000 for playing in this game.  Also the article indicated that this game came about because there was a failed attempt to arrange a home and home series against Kansas State.

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Just now, hskr4life said:

I guess I should ask though... This won't be one of those semi-neutral site games that KenPom does will it?

 

This is in no way a semi-neutral site. KenPom notes that for trying to decide how much home court advantage to dole out. I think maybe a game in Omaha might get that treatment. Maybe not. NET doesn't have "semi-neutral" so it's a neutral game for the committee.

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4 hours ago, Nighthawk said:

A friend and I were discussing this game yesterday...and were wondering what the reason is for playing it.  I see that other teams (including big 10 schools) have played there before, but outside of a game what's in it for the team financially?  Are they getting paid big bucks?  I'd think it would it would be hard to get paid a lot given that there's only around 3500 seats in the place and tickets are not that much.  It's not a home and home series...and hell if it was, I think simply from the nostalgia standpoint of the old big 8 it would sell out...just like the Kansas game.  Hopefully we get these guys and ISU on the non conference home schedule in the next few years.  I'd love to be able to see some of the old rivals from the Big 8 at the Vault. 

 

Why would we play in a game like this?  Think about the mutual advantage.  Each team has a neutral-site game against a foe they probably expected would be Q1 at the time they made the deal.  Losing a Q1 game doesn't hurt; winning a Q1 game helps. A lot.  So there's not a lot of downside risk to either team.  Makes a lot of sense if you think about it.

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