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Silverbacked1

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T'his sums all of college sports for me right now:

 

Golden State Warriors coach Steve Kerr, who once coached his son with an AAU team, recently mentioned that “winning is devalued in the AAU structure” and along with that team goals are forsaken for personal agendas.

“Teams play game after game after game, sometimes winning or losing in four times a day,” Kerr said. “Very rarely do teams ever hold a practice. … If mom and dad aren’t happy with their son’s playing time, they switch club teams and stick him on a different one the following week. The process of growing as a team basketball player – learning how to become part of the whole, how to fit into something bigger than oneself – becomes completely lost within the AAU fabric.”

Silverbacked1

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I had a friend whose son was a very good baseball player, ended up playing post high school.  He said the problem with travel teams at first was that it was the best of the best, but some kids would get cut so the dads would get together to start a new team.  

 

It ended up like rec ball after awhile.  He said that they would go to tournaments and know that they would get to the finals without even playing well because there was so many bad teams.  He said that they were playing the same teams that they were trying to get away from by going to select.

colhusker

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I had a friend whose son was a very good baseball player, ended up playing post high school.  He said the problem with travel teams at first was that it was the best of the best, but some kids would get cut so the dads would get together to start a new team.  

 

It ended up like rec ball after awhile.  He said that they would go to tournaments and know that they would get to the finals without even playing well because there was so many bad teams.  He said that they were playing the same teams that they were trying to get away from by going to select.

Yep - was fortunate that my two boys got on a team that traveled and played a lot of JUCO teams to not only get experience but also exposure to college coaches.

Bugeaters1

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I spoke with a former baseball scout at an Optimist breakfast a month ago or so and he told me travel teams were killing the game of baseball.  Basically, said the samething Kerr did.

I have a friend who has played college baseball and has a high baseball IQ. And he has been saying the same thing about the travel teams for some time now.

Bugeaters1

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I had a friend whose son was a very good baseball player, ended up playing post high school.  He said the problem with travel teams at first was that it was the best of the best, but some kids would get cut so the dads would get together to start a new team.  

 

It ended up like rec ball after awhile.  He said that they would go to tournaments and know that they would get to the finals without even playing well because there was so many bad teams.  He said that they were playing the same teams that they were trying to get away from by going to select.

Hastings has five or six travel teams and by the time they get to legion ball they can only get 13 or 14 to field a team. This year I think they have 16 out.

dlrrk

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There is no simple answer.  The AAU tournaments (Chicago, Frisco TX, Memphis, Best of Maryland & many others) offer the university coaches a "one stop shopping" opportunity.  There are at least 40 universities represented at those big tournaments.  It's how a girl gets noticed.  Additionally, in AAU ball girls will often play against other girls at the same high skill level.  That is not always the case in HS ball. 

 

My girl played on an AAU team coached by her HS coach, and they practiced and they wanted to win.  What is a parent to do if their kid isn't getting playing time in AAU?  The AAU season is only a few months, and parents want the best for their girl and the girl needs to be seen.  Does that make the parent bad?  Does that ruin the game? Maybe it ruins the men's game where money is a factor. 

 

The other method of being seen is the university camps, but that's expensive (rooms & food).  Rachel's HS team came to the Nebraska camp.  Nebraska wasn't interested in Rachel.  They wanted her teammates (Tyler Johnson  (KU) & Tasha Jones (OSU)).  Finch told me they were watching the team play and said... "Who's that big white kid (#43)?"

 

The opportunity to get a college scholarship is worth anywhere from $30K-$60K per year so AAU tournaments are an excellent venue for the universities and the girls to see and be seen.  Is it perfect, no, but it's not going to change. 

Bugeaters1

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There is no simple answer.  The AAU tournaments (Chicago, Frisco TX, Memphis, Best of Maryland & many others) offer the university coaches a "one stop shopping" opportunity.  There are at least 40 universities represented at those big tournaments.  It's how a girl gets noticed.  Additionally, in AAU ball girls will often play against other girls at the same high skill level.  That is not always the case in HS ball. 

 

My girl played on an AAU team coached by her HS coach, and they practiced and they wanted to win.  What is a parent to do if their kid isn't getting playing time in AAU?  The AAU season is only a few months, and parents want the best for their girl and the girl needs to be seen.  Does that make the parent bad?  Does that ruin the game? Maybe it ruins the men's game where money is a factor. 

 

The other method of being seen is the university camps, but that's expensive (rooms & food).  Rachel's HS team came to the Nebraska camp.  Nebraska wasn't interested in Rachel.  They wanted her teammates (Tyler Johnson  (KU) & Tasha Jones (OSU)).  Finch told me they were watching the team play and said... "Who's that big white kid (#43)?"

 

The opportunity to get a college scholarship is worth anywhere from $30K-$60K per year so AAU tournaments are an excellent venue for the universities and the girls to see and be seen.  Is it perfect, no, but it's not going to change. 

Dlrrk, have you had a chance to meet the new coaches?

dlrrk

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No, I'm in Afghanistan.

 

Rachel had her first one-on-one with Coach Williams a day or two ago...  Rachel likes her...  Apparently they talked about a number of issues...  Mom told me that Rachel assured Coach Williams that the team works hard, wants to win, is a good group of girls who want to work hard. 

 

Rachel has met the assistants and has nothing but good things to say about them too. 

Bugeaters1

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No, I'm in Afghanistan.

 

Rachel had her first one-on-one with Coach Williams a day or two ago...  Rachel likes her...  Apparently they talked about a number of issues...  Mom told me that Rachel assured Coach Williams that the team works hard, wants to win, is a good group of girls who want to work hard. 

 

Rachel has met the assistants and has nothing but good things to say about them too. 

Good to hear, Stay safe over there.

Silverbacked1

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By the way I am not telling anybody to do what is best for their own kid. My boys all played travel soccer, so I know what is going on at some level. I am just pointing out that it can really get away from you if you are not careful.

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