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    kleitus reacted to Norm Peterson in Nebraska is defrosted   
    Drawing a blank. Did it get much attention at the time?
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    kleitus reacted to Silverbacked1 in Fred Is Excited!   
    Doesn’t he have two more?
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    kleitus reacted to Huskerpapa in Griesel ist N   
    Heard that he came in the other day and shot ten three pointers and made fifteen of them.  
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    kleitus reacted to REDZONEDAN in Andre done   
    What was your 2 year old’s reason for not wanting to watch Cars? 😛 
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    kleitus reacted to basketballjones in Alonzo Verge: From goat to GOAT?   
    I’m convinced 75% of the Verge hate was leftover subconscious crap related to Devrell Biggs and Teddy Allen. 
     
    Dude has bball flaws. That’s it. Never was a bad teammate, no disciplinary issues, clearly cared, etc… 
     
    Also don’t feel like this season goes near as bad as it has if Wilhelm and Trey don’t go down. And half
    the Verge hate never happens. 
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    kleitus got a reaction from HuscurAdam in uneblinstu's postgame chatter: vol 14; ed 31 - at #10 Wisconsin   
    In the spirit of continuance of the streak...
     
    What the $^#! Was that?
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    kleitus reacted to jayschool in uneblinstu's postgame chatter: vol 14; ed 31 - at #10 Wisconsin   
    No Shit Sunday. As in "we give zero shits that you're the Big Ten champs."
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    kleitus reacted to MichHusker in uneblinstu's postgame chatter: vol 14; ed 31 - at #10 Wisconsin   
    More AP top 25 wins than Iowa
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    kleitus got a reaction from ReidStag in uneblinstu's postgame chatter: vol 14; ed 31 - at #10 Wisconsin   
    In the spirit of continuance of the streak...
     
    What the $^#! Was that?
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    kleitus reacted to throwback in Huskers (9-21) vs Badgers (23-5) give or take   
    I don't want to quote myself, but, I'm a man of my word.
     
    Fred, you are forgiven. Clean slate.
     
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    kleitus got a reaction from BjoeHusker in uneblinstu's postgame chatter: vol 14; ed 31 - at #10 Wisconsin   
    In the spirit of continuance of the streak...
     
    What the $^#! Was that?
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    kleitus got a reaction from Noah121 in Huskers (9-21) vs Badgers (23-5) give or take   
    Well... ok... can we pull a Syracuse and win 5 more in a row to make the dance?
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    kleitus got a reaction from Bugeaters1 in uneblinstu's postgame chatter: vol 14; ed 31 - at #10 Wisconsin   
    In the spirit of continuance of the streak...
     
    What the $^#! Was that?
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    kleitus got a reaction from Bugeaters1 in Huskers (9-21) vs Badgers (23-5) give or take   
    Well... ok... can we pull a Syracuse and win 5 more in a row to make the dance?
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    kleitus got a reaction from Silverbacked1 in Huskers (9-21) vs Badgers (23-5) give or take   
    Well... ok... can we pull a Syracuse and win 5 more in a row to make the dance?
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    kleitus reacted to Norm Peterson in The Decision Has Been Made   
    And while I might not agree with it, Fred Hoiberg is the coach of the basketball team I cheer for and I am going to pull for this team to succeed as fervently as I have for any 4th year coach in the history of the program. I want this to succeed. At this point, Fred is my coach and I'm going to be behind him until we see what things look like next season. And I will hope that I can continue to be behind him even then. I hope he succeeds. I really, really do.
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    kleitus reacted to HuskerFever in Hot Seat   
    ...when was the last time you took a shower? 
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    kleitus reacted to NUdiehard in Shut Up Sipple! - Why Fred Should have at least 5 years   
    Those who listen to Sipple on the radio will understand that even though I disagree with Sipple (and most on this board apparently) my title is made in good fun. I reference Sipple because he has been critical of Fred and many believe Sipple is the mouthpiece of the AD.  I hope that is not the case this time, but if it is, then I disagree with Trev and most of this board regarding what should be Hoiberg's future status with this program.  Fred took over this moribund program and should have at least 5 years to try and turn it around.  Period.
     
    Have the past 3 years been pathetic.  Absolutely.  Has this season been almost unbearable/unwatchable  Yes.  Is it 100% guaranteed next year and the year after will be significantly improved?  No.  But Fred has proven himself.  He has won big time in a big time conference.  Something no other coach in Nebraska history has done.  So he deserves the chance to prove he can do it here as well, and that means he must have at least 5 years.  The reason I say 5 years is because it is only in the 5th year of a coaches career that the coach has all his players including 4 and 5 year seniors on the roster.  I would say the same for most any coach, and definitely for a proven commodity like Hoiberg.
     
    It is clear this board and most fans have completely soured on Fred.  For those who have been on this board for many, many years, you will know that I can be quite critical of coaches and I made it clear when I thought Collier should go and when Doc should go, and I was sometimes in the minority in those positions because many wanted to retain them longer and see if they could turn it around.  I was ambivalent about Miles.  I did not think Miles would ever get it done here, but this program is so pathetic I questioned whether Moos could get anyone better so I was ambivalent (although leaning towards firing him and taking a shot with someone else).  Had I known they could get Fred as a replacement it would have not been a question at all.
     
    I believe the fundamental difference between my thinking most on this board is that I think the main issue facing the Huskers is talent.  More correctly, it is experience (in the Husker program) and talent, as opposed to coaching.  Are there coaching issues I take umbrage with?  Yes, and I have voiced some on this board.  But the MUCH, MUCH bigger issue is experienced talent.  And if talent is the issue, then I believe in Fred more than any other two-bit mid-major coach we might hire to bring in that talent over the next few years.  In fact, I think we are already seeing that with the recruits coming in next year.  Look at who Fred beat out to land Ramel Lloyd-Neither Collier, nor Doc nor Miles ever beat out a who's who for a high school recruit like that.  This doesn't even count McGowens (which I know is another issue, but I will address later).  Tack on Keita (who appears to be a legit big man), and the others, and it is a very solid class (I believe ranked in the top 25).  Will they all pan out?  Probably not.  Will it actually be a top 25 class in talent on the court?  I don't know.  But it has as much chance as any IMO.
     
    As for Bryce, I know Norm is so fed up he says he never wants any more 5 stars and just wants gutsy, hard working 3 stars who stay in the program and develop.  Fine.  Isn't that exactly what Fred it doing?  How many 5 stars has he recruited in his 3 years here?  Oh ya, just one.  Unless I am mistaken, the Husker roster currently has SEVEN freshman (all 3 or 4 star players) on the roster.  This includes Dawson, (who is already on campus) but does not include the other 3 players in next years class (2 will be freshman and one will be a sophomore).  One silver lining is Wilhelm should get a medical redshirt this year and he is a perfect type of 5 year player who can develop into an impact player but is not good enough to go pro early.   If everyone stays (and yes, I know that will not happen). next year's roster could have 6 freshman (Wilhelm, McPherson, Dawson, Lloyd, Lawrence and Oleg) and potentially 4 sophomores (Andre, Wilhelm, Edwards and Keita).  Some may not return, but there spots may be filled with more freshman or sophomores. 
     
    Based on how things are going, it is possible (admittedly not likely) that Bryce and /orTrey return.   Has Bryce been perfect this year?  Clearly not.  Does he need to get bigger, tougher and more focused on defense?  Absolutely?  Would it be good to get another year of development from him?  I certainly think so.  But even if he doesn't return, as shown above, Fred has a lot of youth on this roster.   
     
    Andre has his warts.  He is very raw and makes mistakes.  But he didn't start playing basketball until he was 15 years old.  And because of the Covid year, he is still just a freshman.  He is the perfect type of 5 year development big man along with Wilhelm, and then throw in Keita as just a sophomore next year.  Wilcher is athletically limited, but he can be a very good 3 point shooter which his important in today's game.  Again, another development guy.  
     
    Now, on the pressing question.  Why do I think most of this year's issues are players/talent and not coaching.  Well, first, it just is apparent to me every game that we are outclassed in size and athleticism.  Would anyone argue with that?   The other deficiencies are toughness, focus and discipline.  Now, you say these are all coaching issues right?  Well, maybe.  But let's dig deeper.  I argue that toughness and grit/dog are as much a skill that some have more difficulty learning than others.  For instance, Wilhelm played with grit and hustle every second he was on the floor.  Yet he was just a freshman.  Then there are guys like Bryce who don't even think about diving on the floor or getting physical on defense.  Both freshman, both in the program the same amount of time, but different outcomes (and I have even made the comparison of Bryce to his own brother who plays with grit by nature).  Same nurture, different nature.  Not all humans have that "dog" in them, and sometimes all the coaching in the world has trouble bringing this out.  Another example--Fred said that Dawson in just his first few days of practice dove on the floor more than other players all year.  Fred was obviously applauding this effort, so clearly he encourages it in his players.  But here we have a true freshman who didn't need any coaching, he just does it because it is his nature.  We heard similar things about McPherson.  And I'm guessing Keita has plenty of "dog" in him.  
     
    Last year Nebraska had a top 40 defense when adjusted for tempo.  This year's defense is horrendous.  Is Fred different?  Or have the players changed (including the loss of Trey who is the by far the best defender on the team).  To use this year as justification for an argument that Fred can never have a good defense is ludicrous when he did just last year.  
     
    The Big Ten has been absolutely brutal from top to bottom for each year Fred has been here.  Is it the reality he must overcome?  Absolutely.  But is it fair to compare Fred's record to Doc's when he coached in the Big 12?  Or even each of Miles seasons.  Please show me a season in Doc's, Collier's or MIles career where every other team in the conference was ranked in top 100-EVERY SINGLE ONE.  Those coaches always had a couple teams that were terrible to clip a few easy wins.  
     
    I posted on this board in February of last year that I did not think Nebraska would be good this year because Fred did not have sufficient talent to win this year.  Many argued with this, but it was apparent to me.  Not a coaching issue.  A talent issue.  Now, I did acknowledge that guys like Andre and Wilhelm and Keisei could maybe develop into solid players, but not THIS YEAR.  Fred later added a few more recruits like Wilcher and Verge, but once again Wilcher is a freshman (who needs more development) and Verge is, well, Verge.  I also posted last February that because of this, Fred needed to evaluate his staff and not be so reliant on Matt A.  Again, I took crap for this at the time, but it seemed pretty apparent at the time.  
     
    Regarding Matt A., he is taking a lot of crap on this board lately.  Some justified.  But some are saying he must go.  Not sure I understand.  Can he be, should he be, the sole recruiter?  Absolutely not (again, I said this last February).  But this doesn't mean he has to be fired.  First, Fred has to be more involved in evaluating, recruiting, etc.  And then I believe he needs to get one or two more recruiting assistants to compliment Matt A, not necessarily replace Matt A.  With that said, this assumes there are not other issues that justify firing Matt A.  If he has blatantly gone out of bounds on other issues, then that is a different matter, I am just addressing the recruiting issue.  
     
    I'm guessing those who pull out the "NBA" quotes/issues probably never watch the NBA.  Those who follow the NBA closely know that there are soooo many issues beyond coaching.  Roster issues, team construction, rebuilding, etc. far outweigh coaching acument.  Heck, many NBA coaches today are instructed to lose so they get good draft picks.  And quoting Jimmy Butler, please?  That guy was a malcontent on Minnesota and Sixers and pretty much every team he has been on except maybe the Heat. 
     
    Last, if you fire Fred, who are you going to get?  Please spare me the latest hot and up-and-coming coach.  Whoever that is, he ain't coming here.  It was a miracle we got Fred.  Fire him after 3 or 4 years and the already small pool shrinks even further.  
     
    So shut up Sipple!  You have been kissing Frost's *ss for 4 years now.  Give Fred time.  Give him his 5 years and let's see where we are then. 
      
     
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    kleitus reacted to Norm Peterson in Kobe Beef   
    @hhcmatt Request permission to treat this like a game thread and swear.
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    kleitus reacted to Blackshirt83 in What we thinking   
    To me this is different from every other coach decision in the last 20 years for Nebraska Basketball.
     
    There's no dispute that record wise he deserves to be fired. But he just signed arguably (absolutely as far as optics is concerned) the best class in forever. 
     
    So unlike basically every coach in this position we have seen here in forever,  there's a legitimate and very seeable chance that they can recruit their way out of this roster and fix the issues that are in this locker room. I see no reason to make a move until that is no longer the case.  
     
    Basically I think we have a better chance of Fred getting lucky and hitting on a recruit or two that can totally flip the game than we are by going out and hiring yet another no impact coach who then has to recruit an entire new team anyway. One that will almost surely be worse than the one who will be coming in next season under Hoiberg.
     
    Now if next season comes out in a similar fashion and he once again shows no ability to coach the team, getting them to shoot and score efficiently, care about playing defense or working as a team? Then you move on. A less talented team who actually cares is at least worth investing time and money into. Unlike these guys. 
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    kleitus got a reaction from Handy Johnson in Hot Seat   
    We've got until the middle of next year before this is even a question.
     
    Maybe Bryce jumps pro.  Maybe not.
     
    Keita will help.  A lot.
     
    Getting a year older will help.  A lot.  This team is stupidly young outside of 2 or 3 players.  And frankly verge might be addition by subtraction.
     
    Getting a distributor that plays defense is likely our biggest step forward.
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    kleitus reacted to Ron Mexico in Hot Seat   
    Please stop doing this. Stop putting the blame on players. I'm all about players having accountability when it is warranted. These guys are coached to play this way, or haven't you been paying attention this season. Putting any sort of blame on Verge is just wrong. He's the best scoring pg we've had a Nebraska since Lue. He passes the ball to his teammates a lot in the 1st half and they jacked up +17 3's only making 2 or 3 of them. At least he was trying to get to the rim. Most of his shots where contested because no one on this team sets a decent screen. Still he managed to go 12/21 most of that in 2nd half.  
     
    Every shot Lat took was a 3. 4 of 9 shots by Bryce where 3. Derek had 2 shot attempts. This all is by design. This is what they do in practice. This is what Fred wants. If he didn't want this he would have sat some guys on the bench.
     
    Re-watch the game and pay attention to Verge.
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    kleitus reacted to HuscurAdam in Hot Seat   
    No.  This isn't even worthy of conversation at this point. 
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    kleitus reacted to jdw in Nebraska (5-2) vs. North Carolina St. (5-1) Game Thread   
    I only have but one up vote to give.
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