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  1. Gill has great athleticism. He just needs to make open shots because he has plenty of elevation and quickness to get open. I think he comes off the bench for Allen.
  2. I think this is a somewhat flawed argument, though I get your good point. Human beings evolve. We have grown taller, stronger, and smarter across the board. We build upon the knowledge that comes before us. I don't make those comparisons to demean the players of the past because they were the best we could possibly have at the time. Human being evolution is a byproduct of technology. Also, popularity of the game has increased the pool of players to choose from. When I look at today's computers, I know they are better than the computers of the past, but they wouldn't exist without prior models. Regardless, they are still better overall. Magic's Lakers would've destroyed Cousy's Celtics for the same reason. Lebron James at age 32 is 6'8" and 250-260lbs. That's who he is. We've never seen a player that can do what he can do carrying that kind of weight. Having said this, that isn't entirely because it's 2017. We've had heavier players in the league since the early to mid-90s. Weight is leveling off, so there has literally been a critical mass, so to speak. In other words, your argument has proven it's flawed nature because current weights are about as heavy as NBA players are likely to get. We aren't going to see a specimen like Lebron again at that position. We aren't going to see a 2001 Shaq again who had freakshow athleticism at 330lbs. We aren't going to be able to make this argument 20 years from now because weights are going to be the same, just like height basically leveled off in the late 80s. I am absolutely making the claim that few players prior to, say, 1980 could play in today's NBA, but that doesn't discount the fact that there were GREAT players back then who would dominate today. I still have Jordan #1. I have Shaq, Duncan, Bird, Magic, Pippen, Kareem, etc. in my top 10. I think the top tier talent was at least as good, if not better, in the mid-80s and 90s. It's mainly ballhandling, speed, explosiveness, and shooting (at every position) that is so much better now overall.
  3. Scoring has increased because long range shooting is way better. Shooting is way better because the lane became more clogged after zone, etc., was installed. To give you an idea, Larry Bird was two percentage points better from three than Lebron. The idea that someone got decked to the floor every time they went up for a layup in the 80s is ridiculous. Were there more cheap shots? Yes. There is way better help defense now because of the rules, so there are way more kick outs. Also, there wasn't an emphasis on jumping straight up and allowing contact back then, so you might as well foul the hell out of someone since you're going to get called for it anyway when he jumps into your chest. There are way more no-calls around the rim today when two players collide, and rightfully so.
  4. Roby is a better 4 than Jacobson. I think he and Copeland would've taken the 3-4 spots over with no Ed and Jacobson would've been relegated to spot minutes at the 4 and 5, where he belonged. I think he knew the writing was on the wall. Agree on McVeigh. I hate him at the 4. If Copeland is cleared--and I think he will be--we are better off at the 4 than last season. At this very moment in time, though--prior to Copeland's eligibility--we're not better off, I guess.
  5. I've watched 80s games. I see slow players who weighed an average of 15-20lbs less than today's players. I see no help defense because it wasn't allowed. Players back then wouldn't even be capable of knocking over a Lebron James because he would weigh 40-50lbs more than anyone else on the court. Weight matters a lot in terms of physicality, and so does allowing zone and help defense in the lane. Were players dirtier back then? Sure. More physical? No. The game was slower all the way into the late 90s when iso ball was at its all time high. Jordan would not have the 1on1 advantage he had then in today's game. I do think he'd get similar numbers though because the pace has increased so much. When I say "physical" I'm also referring to the athleticism of help defense. You are way more likely to get a shot blocked going to the rim in today's game, which is one of the reasons the three point shot has become so crucial. Also, regarding hand-checking, there were plenty of dominant offensive players who played through both eras and had virtually no change in their game stats. As for Payton checking the "slight" Curry, you're making my point for me: Curry outweighs Payton by 10lbs and weighs the same as MRR. The fact that he looks "slight" to you says a whole lot about the physical prowess of today's players. Hell, Steve Nash was the same size as Payton.
  6. Jackson was probably pretty pissed when Jordan took off two entire years because of a gambling addiction. No hate here for Kobe. The guy was a warrior, but he also had injuries and plenty of missed games--a lot more than Lebron. Also, where are you getting this "weeks per year" crap from? Lebron played way more games per season than both of those guys. Read this. I'm done: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/15877630/six-year-workload-lebron-james-unlike-anything-league-history ... your claim that Lebron takes games off is literally the opposite of who he--the most durable player ever.
  7. There is a mental approach to the game, as well, which also requires championship effort. I'll take Coach Popovich's approach over your understanding. Sorry.
  8. If a marathon runner doesn't sprint out of the gate, is he not trying? Or is he smarter because he cares more about championships than winning the first leg? Keep in mind Lebron has already played more total playoff games in his career than Jordan did, and only 10 less games than Jordan played in his entire career and has averaged more minutes per game during that time. His durability has been insane. He didn't take two years off for a gambling addiction. He didn't miss a whole season with an injury. He has played huge minutes the entire time.
  9. No, he wouldn't have. Defense is way more physical now, particular on-ball. I think he would've still gotten to the line plenty though (he got a LOT of calls in his prime). Jordan would've dominated today because of his supreme athleticism, but not more than he did then.
  10. What in the world are you basing this on? Lebron is the best conditioned athlete in the league, and the league's most versatile defender. He has three rings and seven straight trips to the finals. He beat one of the best teams ever assembled last year, and it was the greatest individual performance in Finals history. I don't understand what else people need from the guy to consider him one of the GOATs. If Lebron wasn't a great passer and decided to score 40 every night as a volume shooter, I bet people would like him more. He'd be an "assassin" then.
  11. I join this list of youngins, though I'm Lebron's age. I think he's the best 32 year old player ever--better than Jordan at the same age in almost every category. Everyone makes the Jordan 6-0 in the Finals claim, but that's dumb. Lebron made the Finals at the same age Jordan was getting bounced out of the first rounds. The "clutch" claim is also completely bogus, and the stats back this up as well. We've never seen this caliber of athlete--one who does all this while weighing 40-50lbs more than Patrick Ewing. The only players I've ever been this impressed with as individual players are MJ (career) and Shaq (99-01). I'm guessing Kareem would be as well, but I never got to see him in his prime. Top 10: 1. MJ (for now) 2. Shaq 3. Lebron (for now) 4. Kareem 5. Magic 6. Duncan 7. Kobe 8. Bird 9. Garnett 10. Pippen (most underrated player ever) Squad: Magic, MJ, LBJ, Duncan, Shaq
  12. I don't think that happened. In fact, the only game I remember them playing together at the same time was KU. Jordy was starting over Morrow at the end of the year after Morrow's injury. Morrow was coming off the bench for Jordy, and Jacobson was starting at the 4. To not have Morrow in place of Jacobson was insane to me. As for Jordy, he should've received way more minutes than he was given last year. He needed to be given the chance to foul out a couple of times to catch up to D1 speed. He was always productive. We just noticed more at the end of the year because he got more minutes. The reason he wasn't getting minutes is because Ed was playing the 5. Jacobson--who is a marginal talent--should've always been giving breathers to both Morrow and Jordy at the 4 and 5. MJ would've gotten the same amount of total minutes doing this, and given us a chance to expose matchups more effectively. Those first 10 minutes of the second half against KU should've been the blueprint: Starters: Morrow - Jordy Then: Jacobson - Morrow Then: Jacobson - Jordy Repeat. MJ should've been the Benny Parker of our frontcourt--a spark guy who hustles, plays decent defense, and can't score.
  13. To your first question, yes, Morrow guarding the 4 would've allowed more versatility defensively because he was a better perimeter defender than Jacobson and he would've had more opportunities for weakside help defense and shotblocking. Offensively, he would've been more dominant on the glass because there probably isn't a 4 in the conference who can block him out consistently. What he did on the offensive glass against opposing 5s was pretty remarkable given his size. I always wanted to see him beat up on a 4. It rarely happened.
  14. Traditional power forward all day. He would've been more effective on the offensive glass and weakside/pick and roll defense. MJ was exposed at times defensively with other opposing 4s with guard skills. I think Morrow and Jordy together would've been a nightmare to deal with on both ends of the court. But my dream never came true except for a short spurt against KU (second half... played them even).
  15. No problems with the kid. I always thought he deserved to be better than he was. But he's an ordinary D1 role player. I'll always be pissed that we didn't keep Morrow or use him correctly, but not Jacobson. He's a coaching nightmare--great practice and effort player who earns in-game minutes and then underperforms.