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I agree the right coach can make a significant impact. But if we use your logic, I would interpret you to be saying that Nebraska has never had the right coach? Given that they've never been a perennial top 25 team, or never won a tournament game. There have been some really good coaches come through the system, but if the measure is at some point being a high seed in the tournament, heaven forbid winning a game in the tournament which the program is never done in its history, I refuse to believe a coach changes that. And if you're telling me the right coach changes that, then the opposite is also true, that you've never had the right coach.

Miles played in the post season 3 out of 7 years (2 NITs, 1 NCAA), finished 4th in the Big 10 twice in 7 years. Bold Prediction: IF Hoiberg stays 7 years, he WILL NOT accomplish the same, and it WON'T be his fault. NU, as great and passionate as it is, is NOT a perenial basketball power. You do not have to submit to what you've always been, but you have to accept who you are in the landscape of college basketball.

This post may be the best one I've seen on this board that supports an argument I've made several times about knowing and understanding what Nebraska basketball truly is. Is it the Fiddle, or the Fiddler? These stats tell me it's not the Fiddler. I'm not saying you have to accept mediocrity, I'm just saying, putting that 100% On the coach doesn't seem appropriate, given that most of them look awfully similar from me statistical standpoint.

This is typical of major college sports. I am guessing if you dig deep into Duke or UNC, you'd hear/see similar things about a skewed sense of resources for basketball above all else. At UN it is Football . . . .any fan of UN athletics has to be objective enough to know that Football is the Milk-Cow. I am not being critical of it, just stating a fact. Could Miles do a better job, no doubt, however, there is an equity problem if you have a double standard for program resouces allowance, then hold the coach accountable for not "doing enough". When he tried to do more, you disallowed it, until football wanted the same, then it's okay. Moos and others will "officially" say they want every program at UN to win at the highest level. Here is a legitimate question. Would is really be acceptable if Basketball made it to the Sweet 16 every year and Football went 3-9 consistently and suddenly Nebraska was a "Basketball School"? (Don't go down the path of Volleyball and Wrestling, which are great programs, I am talking revenue sports in Major colleges). Does a new basketball coach win with the current athletic department philosophy? Fix the bigger picture before you throw the baby out with the bath water. Here's a better analogy, if the engine in your car blows up, you don't change the tires. Maybe there is a better analogy from a business perspective. If you have a poor business process, do you simply buy a new computer to run a bad process, or do you fix the process first. All the new hardware in the world won't fix a poor process.

Fair assessment. I agree with you, you should not have to settle for what you've always been. I'm just trying to be objective and point out that Rome was not built in a day, and there are very few coaches in Nebrasketball history who had significantly greater success. I think it is more than fair to question if coach Miles can get Nebraska over the hump. I think it is significantly unfair to bash him in the manner that many have on this site. He may have been His Own Worst Enemy getting to the tournament as early as he did in his tenure. That changed the expectations in what is notoriously a very tough conference. Expectations should be high, but traditionally the Huskers are not amongst basketball royalty. I would evidence the fact that last year, if Indiana, Wisconsin, Purdue, Michigan, Ohio State, would have had our resume they would have made the tournament. Understand where the organization is in the rank-and-file of national basketball and don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. The fact that the Huskers were nationally ranked this year and were in the conversation as a possible top 5 seed speaks volumes for where coach Miles is brought the program. That does not mean there's not work left to do, it just means there's been a significant uptick in the past 7 years.

I understand and respect that, but let's not lose sight of the bigger Topic at hand here. I will simply refer to him as Dr. Tom going forward, I'm not a dyed-in-the-wool Husker fan but I certainly know of his legacy at that University. If not for Coach Miles I would follow the Huskers as I do today. My offense was to HB simply ignoring the issue and focusing on grammar. To me that shows a level of short-sightedness that is reserved for internet chat boards rather than being solution-oriented. In the corrupt world of college basketball I would hope that running a Clean Program and establishing a strong recruiting base and helping to fill the Vault on a nightly basis would matter. I also know that in the business of college basketball winning matters. But let's not forget who the Huskers are as a basketball culture. 7 NCAA tournaments in the history of the program and zero wins in the tournament. Is it possible there are unrealistic expectations. If you make it to the dance this year your current coach will gotten you to the NCAA tournament 25% of the time, while running a very clean program.

HB:. Typical with these types of boards. You don't care about content or an actual objective discussion, you want to be the grammar police, so you don't have to unviel you lack of depth or scope. That's fine. This just continues to show the fickle nature of fans. I love the passion for your alma mater or for whoever you love in college sports. But if you're unable to see through either spelling or punctuation mistakes have an objective discussion you put your stake in the ground as to what's important to you. I'm going to stick with trying to be objective and seeing the big picture. I also know, if you go to the dance this year your current head coach has 25% of your NCAA tournament appearances yet we should run him out of town because he doesn't know what he's doing.

We all remember who hired Coach Miles, correct?? The almighty himself isn Nebraska lore . . . . The benchmark of UN athletics, the ICON . . . None other than Dr. Tom Osbourne. Are you all saying now that Dr. O was clueless, Dr. O was wrong, didn't know what he was doing? If given the opportunity, would ANY of you look Tom Osbourne in the eye and tell him how ridiculous vhe was 7 years ago? I understand major college basketball is a business. But I also understand how fickle all the fans can be. When Dr. Tom announce the higher everybody was in love because nobody questioned his wisdom. Suddenly the Great and Powerful Oz didn't know what he was doing and the man who is the best coach in the country 4 years ago has forgotten how to coach? How many of you, if married, understand what it means when you say, through sickness and in health, for richer for poorer, For Better or Worse?

Throughout this message board has been lots of finger-pointing this year especially with this recent skid. After watching nearly every game this year I really have to wonder what has happened? Was the 10 - 1 start Fool's Gold? Does the national coach of the year four years ago forget how to coach? Everybody's first response is, fire the coach. How many missed free throws did Miles have early in the season that cost is close games? How many rebounds were gotten over Coach Miles that lead to easy putbacks the cost us games? How many of the Mysteries against the Iowa or because coach Miles is a poor shooter? I guess my point here is, is this a case where the Husker faithful thought this team was better than they are?

Such a great and insightful post by Lady Husker. I fully understand message boards like this are fun for those of us on the outside looking in. I also know that I come to this board to try to get tid bits here and there but I take them with a grain of salt because much of it is water cooler talk rather than fact-based. But I show up and read the post anyway just to get a general sense of what people are thinking or saying. At the end of the day I support the Huskers and want them to succeed and I'm going to trust the coaching staff and administration to ultimately want the same thing. That being said, I will also throw out this observation at the risk of getting crucified by others here. Let's take a hard look at the four who transferred. Fuller:. Great locker room guy and helps the overall culture of any program he would be involved in. The question is, is he truly a big 10 talent. I love what he brings to the culture of the team, but is he a kid that can really get a program over the hump in the best conference in the country? Horne:. Tons of upside here. The question marks are this, he's an undersized 4 and not athletic enough to be a 3 in this league. The Big 10 has becoming much more Athletic League. It is not the physical, power, win a game 52-48 that it used to be. Morrow:. Love, love, love this athlete and talent. However, the question I have about Ed is this:. My father played football at Nebraska, my mother played basketball at Nebraska, I should go to Nebraska. He may love Nebraska, he may not. I wonder if he came to the Huskers more out of a sense of family obligation or if he truly believed Nebraska was the best home for him? The other question is, he's not a true back-to-the-basket 5, and he doesn't shoot it well enough to be a stretch 4. Jacobson:. Culture guy, hard worker. Will be missed in the locker room for sure. However, is he a difference-maker in the Big Ten, or is he simply a complimentary part? I would make the case that he is a complimentary piece and that this current roster has too many complimentary pieces. I do not believe Michael ends up in a power 5 conference, and at best, a different program allows him to play a stretch 4, MAYBE, but unlike White from last year, I do not believe he's going to go and be the leading scorer on his next team. He will be a nice addition for a smaller conference or a lesser program. Not a criticism, simply an observation. So for me, it comes to this. The perception of these transfers may be worse than the basketball reality. If Palmer, Copeland, and Roby turn out to be the type of players that most believe they will be, the Huskers end up being more athletic, with more offensive Firepower, than they were this year. They may not be as deep, but they certainly appear to be more athletic on paper. I think it is too early to tell what the basketball impact of these decisions are. As Husker fans we need to wait and see how next year's lineup produces. Where these four players end up may tell us a lot about the level of their athleticism and basketball Talent. GO!!!