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Im new to this board. My first love is Nebraska Basketball. My opinion is: This was a big decision for Moos, and has a huge impact on the program. All this (extension) says to me, Moos has been and will always be a football AD. I am not an AD, nor am I tasked with with the responsibilities of an AD; however, this was not a thoughtful move. He had two options: Fire Miles/Extend him two years. I understand what Miles did this last year but i could justify a fire. I personally think he deserved a 2 year extension. But this is the worst option I could imagine for the program. How can hire a quality assistant? How can you recruit? How can you assure stability with the current staff (Lewis is an asset)? More importantly, how can you assure stability with the student athletes in the program? Im upset with Moos. He took an easy way out and as a Nebraska Basketball fan I find it to be a coward/thoughtless decision. Fire him if you dont have confidence. Find someone else .. If youre on the fence, extend him two years and fire him after next year if he doesnt meet expectations, we can afford it; we are paying two FB coaches a kings ransom. You can at least fool candidates (Hunter vacancy), recruits, current staff and players, we have program security, ... put the student athletes first... put the program first... Nevertheless, well done with Frost.

For anyone that missed it, there was an article in the Journal Star yesterday where they interviewed Hank Bounds. http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/sipple/steven-m-sipple-bounds-might-rankle-some-but-his-lofty/article_471a8b4f-9085-5350-b25d-3a9000ed5ce4.html The basic premise was a quote by Bounds something like “you have to convince me why we shouldn’t compete for national championships in every sport”. Well Hank, after the debacle on the basketball front yesterday, I give you exhibit A for why we won’t be more competitive in basketball and despite your talk, we are clearly just a football school. Whether you’re a Miles supporter or not, the tepid actions by the administration show one thing; they don’t have the same commitment to basketball as football. IMO, the one year extension was a joke. It did nothing to help anyone other than possibly showing Miles just enough love that you hope he sticks around if you can’t find someone better next year. It clearly sends the message he’s on the hot seat, doesn’t help in recruiting players or hiring a new assistant coach. It provides a litany of possible excuses for next year and the following years. It also damages future recruiting classes and all but assures that we have some bad years coming up. They should have either extended him to have a total of 4 or 5 years on his deal or done nothing. Either would have done more for the program than what they did. The fact Bounds had an interview on the same day saying he expects championships is a joke. You don’t build championship programs this way. There is no way they would ever do this to the football program. Can you imagine a football coach had under 4 years on his deal here? I can’t. The actions of our AD on basketball make me realize what they think of basketball and as a die hard, long time fan, it makes he both angry and sad.

Twenty-two regular season wins and a 4th place finish in the Big Ten should have been a launching pad into recruiting for the class of 2019, the guys we'd be signing this November. The success this year should have been something we could leverage in recruiting and, frankly, in replacing any assistants who might move on. It was a ready-made sales pitch: "Hey, look at what we just did! We climbed out of the cellar and into the penthouse of one of the top basketball leagues in the nation. But we want to stay there and we need studs like you to do it. Come join us, Nebraska is on the rise!" But, a funny thing happened on the way to the forum. Before I get to that, though, let's get something straight: Don't talk to me about money. A million or two per year seems like a lot of money to some average-Joe fan making $50,000/year with overtime. The university can afford it. Extending Miles doesn't have the effect of preventing us from moving on at the end of next year if that's what needs to happen. So, don't even go there. The question is what makes sense RIGHT NOW. And the answer, in my humble opinion, is that you do whatever you can to build off this season and leverage the success we had this year in order to build more success over the longer term. We could have done that if Moos had quickly cemented an extension of 2 years or even 3. The money doesn't matter as much as the appearance. We have plenty of money. They have a war chest they can go to if and when they feel they need to axe a coach, so, again, money isn't an obstacle. It's about establishing a veneer of confidence and optimism following one of the best seasons in Husker hoops history. Take that success, act like it's a BIG FRICKIN DEAL that we're very happy about and confident about and think we're the new studs on the block about to turn the corner for real. That's how you build buzz. That's how you get recruits excited. That's how you get your foot in the door with guys who might not have given you a second look in years past. And you do that by confidently and loudly extending your coach at the end of such a season (and if it doesn't work out, hey, you just fire him at the end of the next season and it's just money, which you have plenty of.) But, instead of allowing the program to build off this year's success, Moos -- pick your metaphor -- he crapped the bed, he screwed the pooch, whatever. We're now virtually assured of having to go through a coaching change in March or April of next year and we're going to have shit for a roster when we do it. Thanks a lot, Bill.

We sure as hell didn't fold down the stretch. We got beat on a neutral court by a red hot team that made the finals. Then we got jobbed and sent on the road and played a tough close game with a team that won at Bay,or and made it to New York. We soundly beat a very good Penn Stste team right before that. We can always find reasons to be bummed but this season isn't the poster child for that

First post and he drops a perfectly executed semicolon. I like this dude.

See, this is precisely the problem I have with the AD decisions on Miles the last 3 years. How's a guy supposed to build something when you basically send him the signal that he's coaching for his job every year? You think the decisions he would make as a coach would be different if he thought his position would be secure than if he thought, hey, this could be it? Let me ask you this: If Deverell Biggs was on this year's team, would he get booted off in January? Turns out that was best for the long-term health of the team. But if you're coaching for your job and have to win right now, does the coach make a different call there?

1) By what analysis do you come to that conclusion? Industry standard is a rollover, adding a year onto the end of the contract every year, keeping coaches with a set number of years on their contract. Always. For a coach to burn 2 years off the end of a contract, then produce a very strong record and only get a one-year extension, says the same thing to recruits as it does to everyone else: his time here is done after next season. If he does well enough not to get fired, it'll be good enough to attract other offers that he'll consider before choosing one. The chances that he's back after next year seem almost miniscule. No question in my mind this situation hamstrings us on the recruiting trail. Convince me I'm wrong. 2) OK. Maybe. Next year, we'll still have, hopefully, a team full of studs. But the year after that? Guess we'll see. I have my doubts. You think 14,500 fans would show up every night to watch our 2000-2001 team? 3) By what analysis do you come to that conclusion? We're spinning our wheels for a year. We're screwing recruiting in the right here and now. We lose, at a minimum, the seniors, plus probably Roby at the end of next season. Those are spots Miles would be recruiting to fill right now. Those potential recruits are guys who won't be signing with us in November because they have no idea where Miles will be when their college careers start or who the coach here would be. Fire Miles this year, and you get moving with a roster to work with. Extend Miles and you signal to everyone this is our man (unless you have to buy him out early, which, OK, fine, so what?). This one-year extension, IMO, is the absolute worst of all possible scenarios. With all the players we for sure lose off next year's team, we're going to go into 2019-2020 giving serious minutes to walk-ons like Ross Buckendahl and Craig Wortmann. For the record, I believe Miles earned a reasonable extension with this season. I respect that there might be those who would disagree with that opinion, in which case, fine, fire him now. But, for the love of all things Holy, make a decision one way or the other -- extend for real or fire him. But don't leave us in this state of suspended animation with a coach on life support and a program teetering in the balance.

When they announced the one-year extension, my son sent me a text that said, "It's like the university doesn't want to be good at basketball." You are correct. It doesn't matter how much confidence Moos has in Miles behind the scenes. This has been handled terribly out in public.

Doom and gloom seems to proliferate here. Tim Miles is the NU BB Coach, let’s get behind him and the returning players for the upcoming season. The future could include more transfers, graduate and undergraduate, to boost the roster. Roby won’t be NBA ready after next year unless he takes a giant leap forward. I hope he can play the 4 since he is overmatched by big centers. Allen May make a significant jump and be a reliable scoring guard. Much depends on Palmer and Copeland.

I don't think we have a brand...that's part of the problem

1. Was there any positive momentum at the end of the season that could have been capitalized on and leveraged to advance the reputation of the brand? If so, did we do it? 2. Were there any potential negative implications in our season and our outlook moving forward that could have been mitigated with an appropriate PR strategy? If so, did we put the "best face" on the situation? 3. From the perspective of brand identity and protecting or improving brand reputation, how would you assess the AD's involvement in the program since the end of the season? Has our brand been strengthened, harmed, or no change?

Jimmy, let's say you're the PR guy tasked with developing an ad campaign for ... Chipotle. Do you ... A. Run an ad campaign apologizing for all the e-coli that got people sick and promise we're going to try to figure out why our food is killing people and fix it; or B. Run an ad campaign talking about fresh, sustainable, free range, farm-to-table, great tasting fast food at an affordable price? Moos chose A.

Struggle understanding the 1-year deal, but whatever. Moos was in an awkward position. He's going to be criticized no matter what. Don't think Miles leaves for another school. Even with a good year (NCAA bid and win) next year, that brings his tenure here up to mediocre on the surface. No other blue blood is coming in offering $2.5MM+ for a guy who is barely over .500. And if he does that...that makes two years in a row where we don't suck. I think that's a big thing the administration is looking for. Can we sustain anything? Have we built anything? Through 6 years, the answers to those questions are...no. IMO, I think the admin wants to see a foundation built. Some stability. Some consistency. They don't want simply a flash in the pan year every 4-5 years. Should Miles be successful next year, that's two in a row and gives the appearance there is some substance there. Personally, I don't see it ending well. And thought that before and after the extension debate. I think Copeland is gone. Even with Roby and Palmer back....that leaves us incredibly thin in the front court. Jordy isn't good and Roby is terrific. But one good player to man 80 minutes of frontcourt time a game isn't a good thing. And we essentially stopped recruiting this class in January and only hope would be a grad transfer (whom we haven't heard about us even going for from a big man perspective yet). Coupled with the lack of front court depth, we still aren't a great shooting team. Never thought, despite the success, we were a great team this last year. We were talented, but felt too often the sum was less than the individual parts, even in our wins. And the fact that as of this point, we will be a less talented team than last year, coupled with a corrected Big 10 and I don't feel great about us doing great things. Don't think the contact extension conversation applies to 2018-2019. It will the years following due to recruiting high school talent.

All of the below, just my opinion: The 1 year contract extension looks bad. Now, who knows what was going on behind closed doors with Miles' agent and university representatives. Who knows how honest everyone is with each other about the situation and how they're leaning during negotiations? If they could be, and I was Miles, I would ask to extend the contract 2-3 more years, but reduce the buyout by 1/2 per month or 2/3 per month were he to be terminated. Essentially the university would owe the same total amount of compensation, but there's more of a chance of an appearance of commitment (both sides could even "sell" it as such) and it makes it easier to hire an assistant and recruit ... or at least maximizes the chances of success in those areas. I think what happened is Moos went looking to see who was interested and didn't get a lot of positive feedback regarding interest OR felt he didn't have an adequate amount of time to sell the job to anyone. He's probably leaning toward terminating Miles after next year, so he makes the fiscally prudent move by only extending a year. It just seems like all parties could've gotten together better and "sold" this whole thing better to where it doesn't at least appear to be such a gap in commitment between the two parties. As it stands, it has all the appearances of Miles being a "lame duck." That's never a good look. Again, just my opinions ...

Im not asking for 5 years nor am I an advocate for Miles. On court production is a question but has secured hope with the production of last year. We have the money, dont fool yourself.. It's about the program not the coach. Spend to secure longevity, or dont and spend to start a new chapter. We do it with other sports, and that was due to numerous sub .500 seasons after a reputation of success. We dont have that in bball.

If I'm Miles, and you're the AD, and you do what you say and I kick ass next year and win an NCAA tourney game, and you then approach me about a long term deal, I'm going to say, "Long term? Like what? Two years instead of one? So generous. Thanks, but I'm going to find a 7 year deal somewhere else and good luck with the coaching search to replace me." If I'm Moos this year, I come out PROMPTLY after the Final 4 with AT LEAST a 2 year deal if not 3. Maybe structure buyouts in such a way that I can cut ties a little more easily next year if things go south. But I bring Tim forward at a press conference and praise him effusively for the great season we had this year and how we got screwed out of an NCAA tourney appearance the team had clearly earned. What do we have instead? The good feelings that should have carried us forward into next year following one of the best regular season runs in program history have COMPLETELY dissipated. Gone away. Gone. No good will; no good feelings; no positive momentum carrying us forward into next year. None. Completely screwed the positive momentum that would have given us a foot in the door in recruiting. The way this has been handled has been a complete cluster fuck.

This. What we just saw this week was Moos signaling to the coach, coaching staff, fans, recruits, prospective coaching assistants, et. al. that we don't have full confidence in Miles and he is on notice. Whether Moos was intentional or not in that message, it doesn't provide the same stability he was harping about for this program. If I were an AD and didn't want to show my cards (deciding whether to keep or fire him next year), I would have bit the bullet and netted out the contract to four years.

I felt like it made a lot of sense for Kenya to take that job. Stability here was certainly a factor but I'd argue the most stable job anyone can find is with a new coach. Working with a Hurley and at UConn is a good gig. The area lines up with where Hunter's recruiting ties are. He's very good friends with assistant Kimani Young. The issue with this contract isn't Hunter leaving; assistants leave. The issue is finding Hunter's replacement.

I couldn't agree more. I know it's far too early to declare this as a mistake by Moos, but I think we will look back at him slow playing Miles' contract extension or possible firing this offseason and see that it was handled very, very poorly. Either extend him multiple years and show you're fully committed right after the season concluded or move on to the next best option. Leaving the program in limbo for a few months certainly contributed to Kenya leaving, along with our top recruit for this class.

Yup he’s going to sail off into the sunset or get fired of coarse. My bet is he wins between 20-25 games next year w by far the best team he’s ever had in Lincoln. Everyone takes notice in the Midwest and he slides into a fat contract at the likes of a Minnesota or some other school similar to Nebraska that’s looking to run off their coach. All while we are wondering why moos( I think he’s a jackwagon already) ran off the guy who finally had the program pointed in the right direction. O and we will lose 6-8 guys after next year so the next coach will also be screwed. Great freaking day to be a husker mr. Moos.

Well, the one year extension leaves him a little less vulnerable to a Barry Collier move by Miles; gives Moos a little more control over the timing of making the next hire. But if you think Bounds and Moos haven't already made the long term call on Miles I'd like to sell you some some ocean front property in East Lincoln. You don't do the last month and a 1 year deal on a guy who hadn't been extended the past two years if you think Miles has any chance of being your guy.

Actually, much of the entire world knows the do or die ship has already sailed. Its already done died. Just a phony deal to allow them time to find the next guy.

no. uconn won a championship 4 years ago and is a blue blood program. we've never won an ncaa tourney game. that's why kenya left.

he's had 4 losing seasons out of 6, and he's still employed. that seems like enough confidence to me.

I'd like people to think about our brand for a little bit. Forget about whether you think Miles is the long-term answer or the coach who can get us to the next level or not, and just focus for a moment on the brand. I'm glad I don't have to sell Jeeps. Everything you see about Jeeps seems to say they're cheap, unreliable pieces of junk. With 4-wheel drive. You don't sell Jeeps by saying we're going to give the CEO a 1-year extension on his deal and we'll replace him next year if he doesn't right the ship by then. You might actually do that, but that's not your PR approach. That's not how you sell the brand or improve its public perception. Think about our record this year and how you would have approached PR for our brand at the end of the season, and talk about if you think the decisions by the powers-that-be since the END of the season have advanced or improved our brand. Or not.

Nailed it Norm.

Yep. And the rotten thing is that if the coaches know it, the players will know it too. This year was supposed to be that year. Next year was supposed to be the year where we just go out and play loose. Now instead we have another year of what if games to play. We have another year of playing under pressure from the top down.

What if "the guy" Moos wants wasn't available? Why fire Tim Miles only to hire someone else who isn't "the guy"? That could set the program back even further! I like Tim. I want him to be "the guy" at Nebraska. I want him to be a winner here. After last season, I am genuinely curious what he can do this next season. I obviously have my doubts that Tim can lead this program to the heights I'd like to see it achieve. So, to me, a one-year extension was fitting.

If the Board of Directors lacks confidence in the CEO, I guarantee they'll try to keep that as quiet as possible. What you think of the CEO is a very different question than the public face you put on your situation. Wall Street Journal reports your 3rd quarter sales failed to meet expectations. Do you say, "yeah, we sucked, we'll try to get better?" Or do you say, man, we did a hella fine job under some tough circumstances and we feel very well positioned moving forward? What you think privately and what you do publicly aren't necessarily going to be the same thing. I think there were some real opportunities to spin the end of this season into a major positive for the BRAND moving forward. Whether that brand is skippered by the current coach or not. I don't think we leveraged those opportunities and, in fact, I think we pissed them down our leg while the powers-that-be were off in the weeds wondering whether Miles is the right guy or not. Like it or not, he IS the guy. And do you undermine the brand in order to slow play the coach so that next year, when you start over, you can hand the next guy a dumpster fire? Sounds like a great plan.

Good companies don't evaluate CEO's based on the most recent quarter or even year. They take into account the entire time that CEO has been with the company (and perhaps even before that). The CEO reflects the company and its brand, so the company has to be very diligent with their review of the CEO. This can take time. If a CEO has struggled for a few years but then has a decent/good year, the company still has every right to be hesitant. The company may reward the CEO for a job well done with a small raise or extension, but very few companies would say, "Now he's getting it! Give him at least 5 more years!" because nothing has happened that proves that CEO can sustain success for multiple years in a row. The company is not sure they want to tie their brand to that CEO for the long term. And that's okay. The company said that as soon as the year was over, they would inform the public (its consumers) what they were going to do with their CEO. The company informed its consumers just 15 days after the end of the year that they've given their CEO a one-year extension for a job well done this past year. The "brand" of the company will most likely remain the same as it was the year before, except to the hardcore consumers who really like that CEO. But to the general public (especially nationally), they probably didn't even notice a thing. (The title of this thread made me laugh. The university has yet to embrace using "Nebrasketball" in marketing. I've always thought "Nebrasketball" was cool and catchy, but you can't even buy a "Nebrasketball" t-shirt in the shop at PBA. What a missed BRANDING opportunity!)

Understand what you're saying above over extending, however, this is small potatoes in terms of a pay out. My guess is as pointed out above is that list is a football coach only list OR, his list was not realistic and he got told no from those on his list so he bought a year to make a new list. Either way, this was handled poorly.

JUCO post player seems like something we need to explore

Not saying it was good or bad, but I think one could argue that the 1-year extension is a commitment to improving basketball. You aren't over extending a guy who hasn't been successful here and it probably means we are being selective in who we would be targeting for a replacement. We could have easily fired him if we just wanted him gone. It probably means we are doing some due diligence in finding a replacement.

I believe uconn filled up their last scholarship today w a St. John’s transfer and Georgetown got their point gaurd of the future a couple days ago. Hopefully he listens to his mom and still gives us a look.

Would you have waited a month to extend one year? And, of course, winning next year won't help with getting anyone decent in November. Two Novembers so far while the ADs dithered has resulted in a shaky wing whose best offer was NU, and a tall skinny project. We're gonna be short on players even if we win next year.

But that's kind of the point. Then fire him! The one year extension does absolutely no good. And the probability is it actually does more harm of the 3 options of extend 1 year, fire him, or extend 2+ years.

To be clear, that's just Miles. That's not the assistants or staff, whose futures are also tied to this, and presumably that was a decent-sized factor in one person deciding that's not a secure enough future and moved on. If we think that won't play a factor in finding a suitable replacement, we're kidding ourselves.

Knowing this program not well Fatalism is no fun.

I will be less likely to go to no name State next year knowing that Moos doesn't believe in Miles or seem to care about basketball. So yeah this could have an effect on attendance. I can't believe how unexcited I am for next year. Feels like just another year of Nebrasketball heartache.

Thank you for not making me type it out. For those that seriously think this does not affect recruiting, you are sadly mistaken. Recruits want to know who they will be playing for, what system they will be playing in, and they DO NOT want uncertainty. That is all you get with a 1 year extension. I agree that attendance wont really be affected right away. However, with point three, I disagree that this doesn't set the team back. Miles is now recruiting with his hands tied behind his back. We have a good year next year and Miles get's extended... cupboard is bare in the next year or two of underclassman and people complain in 2 years. Miles isn't here and the cupboard is still bare and sets us back two years.

last place finishes in conference like when Miles took over.

Nope on 1 and 3. There was a slim chance of that had they not drug it out for a month playing Simon & Garfunkel. This is over and the ship has sailed.

If all you're gonna do is give him a year, then give him the year and the nice public statement a month ago. Would have reduced the wind-twisting, teeth gnashing, and speculation. And the appearance that you've made the call that he isn't your guy. Again, not arguing the merits of that call, but the handling of this has sucked.

First post here and this is a general post for all these Tim Miles extension threads. When did 22-11 overall and 13-5 in the conference become not good enough for Husker fans? Sure our schedule was a little on the easier side this year, and it would have been nice to see a better finish in the conference tournament and NIT. I get the impression from reading these boards that some people forget this was a historic season for the team. Yeah it's crazy that making the NIT and bowing out game 1 is historic but that's the sad state of affairs of Husker hoops. A one year extension is a massive setback to any progress that's been made in this program over Miles' tenure. Two postseason appearances and a program that is finally able to attract talent, regardless of whether through transfer or recruiting. It just feels as if all that has now been thrown out the door just to leave us in limbo for a year with a lame duck coach. I just feel this year was a crossroads year for his contract. Either he's your guy and you extend him AT LEAST 2 years to let him keep the ball rolling, or you decide he's not your guy and move on. This just feels like a situation where Bill Moos got this completely wrong and we're the ones to suffer.

What a 1 year extension accomplishes: 1.Kills recruiting. 2. Kills attendance. 3. Sets the program back years. This is a kick in the pants to season ticket holders.

Here is some hudl tape from last season https://www.hudl.com/video/3/6573778/5721dd65c124573b54869e5e

After having a day to digest this, the best I can do is to accept the fact that "what is,is" and let Miles deal with it. He will be well compensated whatever happens next year and if everyone returns, there is no reason to believe he will not succeed with getting an even better contract here or move to an even better job elsewhere. If people leave and he fails, no one on the board will want him to return anyway and the onus is back on Moos to find someone better. Perhaps I am simply feeling sanguine today because of the Red Sox April start.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/recruiting-insider/wp/2018/04/17/after-decommitting-from-nebraska-xavier-johnson-unsure-about-college-choice/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.15830f742a31

You forgot to carry the ones.

Got a nice slap in the face extension today. Next season now a dead man walking situation. Not a good feeling.