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    uneblinstu's postgame chatter: Vol: 10; ed: 9 - at Michigan St.


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      I can't believe we only won by 29. Everyone needs to get better. - Tom Izzo, probably

    This one went largely as expected.

     

    • It's gonna be tough for this team to go anywhere as long as Jordy and Duby continue to play with constant foul trouble.
    • Good to see Roby back.
    • Not sure how many front lines we'll face like this one. NU couldn't do anything in the paint.
    • After a good stretch shooting the ball, they took a major step back in that category today, only hitting at 27.4% from the floor
    • Michigan St. is really, really good. They're gonna go far in my bracket in March.

     

    That's as much energy as I'm willing to spend on this game right now.

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    4 hours ago, Dead Dog Alley said:

     

    It looks like teams have figured out how to attack the 1-3-1 that we play, where we put our post player down low to protect the lane and he doesn't run the baseline.  We've given up a lot of easy open 3s from the corner when we've rolled it out there.

     

    It doesn't work nearly as good without Ed back there.

    I think we like putting Roby out at the point of the 1-3-1 but wouldn't it make more sense to put him down in the post given that you need his rebounding? (have we put Roby in the post and I've just missed it?)  Did anyone notice how aggressive Jack looked out there finally at the end of the game?

     

    How about  a 1-3-1 with

     

                  Roby

    Jack Copeland Palmer

                 Taylor

     

    Minnesota isn't really putting a lot of pressure on the ball so I don't think we need a ton of ball handling on offense.

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    16 hours ago, hhcdimes said:

     

    It doesn't work nearly as good without Ed back there.

    I think we like putting Roby out at the point of the 1-3-1 but wouldn't it make more sense to put him down in the post given that you need his rebounding? (have we put Roby in the post and I've just missed it?)  Did anyone notice how aggressive Jack looked out there finally at the end of the game?

     

    How about  a 1-3-1 with

     

                  Roby

    Jack Copeland Palmer

                 Taylor

     

    Minnesota isn't really putting a lot of pressure on the ball so I don't think we need a ton of ball handling on offense.

     

    I thought it worked well with Palmer at the top of the key and Watson running the baseline--there isn't a ton of rebounding from that spot and you need a lot of quickness to contest baseline/corner jumpers when the ball is being swung and skipped.  Your rebounding comes primarily from the weakside wing and center.  So, starters would be:

     

               Palmer

    Taylor Jordy  Copeland

              Watson

     

    ^^^ The other nice thing I just realized is that Roby could be subbed in at literally ANY spot of that zone and function just fine.  Ugh.  I really want to see this more now.  It completely ruins pick and roll offenses, which destroy us.  

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    6 minutes ago, LK1 said:

     

    I thought it worked well with Palmer at the top of the key and Watson running the baseline--there isn't a ton of rebounding from that spot and you need a lot of quickness to contest baseline/corner jumpers when the ball is being swung and skipped.  Your rebounding comes primarily from the weakside wing and center.  So, starters would be:

     

               Palmer

    Taylor Jordy  Copeland

              Watson

     

    ^^^ The other nice thing I just realized is that Roby could be subbed in at literally ANY spot of that zone and function just fine.  Ugh.  I really want to see this more now.  It completely ruins pick and roll offenses, which destroy us.  

     

    If we're comfortable enough with Roby and Copeland on the perimeter no reason you couldn't do this

     

               Palmer

    Watson Jordy Copeland

               Roby

     

    or

     

             Palmer

    Roby Jordy Copeland

             Watson

     

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    3 minutes ago, hhcdimes said:

     

    If we're comfortable enough with Roby and Copeland on the perimeter no reason you couldn't do this

     

               Palmer

    Watson Jordy Copeland

               Roby

     

    or

     

             Palmer

    Roby Jordy Copeland

             Watson

     

     

    Agree with the bottom one for sure and would love to see that lineup tried out, but the top one would mean Watson is a primary defensive rebounder and he would get killed on the glass when the shot goes up on Copeland's side.  

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    When I ran a 1-3-1 (of course, I'm talking about seventh graders here), I wouldn't make the bottom guy cover the entire baseline.  I would have my center take the bottom right corner, and the baseline guy take the bottom left.  Kept my baseline guy from running himself ragged, and it got a guy with length defending the bottom right corner. 

     

    It wasn't perfect, but we did some nice things with it.

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