Norm Peterson Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 The difference between 54 and 104 is ... basically two losses. Going by ESPN's Daily RPI numbers (I'm using ESPN's because they make it easy to compare), here are some numbers to consider. This is a comparison of our win/loss totals against teams at various RPI levels. Ill is currently #54 We're #104 RPI top 50: 2-3 2-3 RPI 51-100: 2-4 2-3 RPI 101-150: 4-1 3-1 RPI 150+: 7-0 6-2 So, we (at #104) and Illinois (at #54) have fairly comparable records against teams in the RPI top 50; against teams in the RPI 51-100; and against teams in the RPI 100-150. The difference between 54 and 104? Incarnate Word and Hawaii. Give us those two games back and we would skyrocket up the RPI and have a lot less work to do to return to the dance. And there would be a lot less angst on this board about the entire season if you give us those two games back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hskr4life Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Just going to have to make up for that with two we shouldn't have... and there are a few games left (2 at home) we probably shouldn't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipsucks Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 ....not nearly as important as the difference between 69 and 96. Red Rum, 49r, Silverbacked1 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredsSlacks Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 we have at least 4 ranked teams left on our schedule, so there will be plenty of chances to boost our rpi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskerpapa Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I know, I know...50 Silverbacked1 and Noah121 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroranHusker Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Nebraska has only 3 more home games against teams that are against good teams along with 5 road games. Gotta get almost all of those & Nebrasketball will be sitting in fairly decent shape. Win a game or two in Chicago & we're dancin'... That seems simple enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmykc Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Should be a snap! I just hope the NCAA doesn't put us into the same regional as Kentucky because we don't match up well with them. Norm Peterson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhcmatt Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 It's the difference between having to win 7 of our next 8 instead of 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhctony Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 While I won't sit here and argue the Incarnate Word loss, keep in mind if we beat Hawaii (which would be nice), we'd have then played Wichita State and Colorado. It's not like that would have been a guaranteed another win. Would have improved our SOS, sure. But not necessarily our RPI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Just another reason to be irate for losing to the likes of Hawaii and especially Incarnate Word. Unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 While I won't sit here and argue the Incarnate Word loss, keep in mind if we beat Hawaii (which would be nice), we'd have then played Wichita State and Colorado. It's not like that would have been a guaranteed another win. Would have improved our SOS, sure. But not necessarily our RPI. I'd rather have a loss in the 0-50 category than have one in the 150+ category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerbaseball13 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 The difference between 54 and 104 is ... basically two losses. Going by ESPN's Daily RPI numbers (I'm using ESPN's because they make it easy to compare), here are some numbers to consider. This is a comparison of our win/loss totals against teams at various RPI levels. Ill is currently #54 We're #104 RPI top 50: 2-3 2-3 RPI 51-100: 2-4 2-3 RPI 101-150: 4-1 3-1 RPI 150+: 7-0 6-2 So, we (at #104) and Illinois (at #54) have fairly comparable records against teams in the RPI top 50; against teams in the RPI 51-100; and against teams in the RPI 100-150. The difference between 54 and 104? Incarnate Word and Hawaii. Give us those two games back and we would skyrocket up the RPI and have a lot less work to do to return to the dance. And there would be a lot less angst on this board about the entire season if you give us those two games back. Yep. Using the RPI Wizard I changed Hawaii and IC to wins and added wins vs PSU, Maryland, Iowa to round out our schedule and we finished 18-12 RPI 53. Adding back in the losses we finish 16-14 RPI 91. Add in a shoulda would could win vs Krayton and we finish with an RPI of 41 and are talking about dancing even with an 8-10 Big Ten record. Norm Peterson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigRed Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 This team didn't really understand how important the non-con was as they were going through it, and I think part of that is due to the fact that they had a crappy non-con last year and still made it in. They didn't play with urgency. In reality, bubble teams can't drop games Incarnate Word, Creighton and Hawaii, much less all 3. Their NCAA hopes tail-spinned after that, and I don't think they fully understood that. Even if we'd just won IW and Creighton, RPI Wizard says we'd be 56 right now. The difference between this year and last is we didn't protect our home court against a couple bad teams. Disappointing, because we never should have lost those games. (Sorry to be a downer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 This team didn't really understand how important the non-con was as they were going through it, and I think part of that is due to the fact that they had a crappy non-con last year and still made it in. They didn't play with urgency. In reality, bubble teams can't drop games Incarnate Word, Creighton and Hawaii, much less all 3. Their NCAA hopes tail-spinned after that, and I don't think they fully understood that. Even if we'd just won IW and Creighton, RPI Wizard says we'd be 56 right now. The difference between this year and last is we didn't protect our home court against a couple bad teams. Disappointing, because we never should have lost those games. (Sorry to be a downer). I wouldn't call you a downer at all. It's being realistic. When we played Creighton, they weren't as bad as they are now due to injuries and such, but I still can't fathom losing to a team like Incarnate Word. I just can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 As expected, that Rhode Island loss isn't too bad. They're sitting at 15-5 and 7-2 in the A10. They're 10-2 over their past 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhctony Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 While I won't sit here and argue the Incarnate Word loss, keep in mind if we beat Hawaii (which would be nice), we'd have then played Wichita State and Colorado. It's not like that would have been a guaranteed another win. Would have improved our SOS, sure. But not necessarily our RPI. I'd rather have a loss in the 0-50 category than have one in the 150+ category. Completely agree. But you also might have gone 1-2 after you beat Hawaii and it really would have been a wash effect on the RPI if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigRed Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 While I won't sit here and argue the Incarnate Word loss, keep in mind if we beat Hawaii (which would be nice), we'd have then played Wichita State and Colorado. It's not like that would have been a guaranteed another win. Would have improved our SOS, sure. But not necessarily our RPI. I'd rather have a loss in the 0-50 category than have one in the 150+ category. Completely agree. But you also might have gone 1-2 after you beat Hawaii and it really would have been a wash effect on the RPI if you ask me. RPIWizard says if we had beaten Hawaii, then lost to Wichita State and Colorado, our RPI would be 112 right now and we'd be 12-10. Instead, we are 13-9 and our RPI is 103. Even had we beaten Colorado, our RPI would be 99, only 4 spots better. So you are correct. Where this team really hurt its chances this season was Incarnate Word and Creighton. A stretch of four fateful days in December in our own arena. AuroranHusker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroranHusker Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 While I won't sit here and argue the Incarnate Word loss, keep in mind if we beat Hawaii (which would be nice), we'd have then played Wichita State and Colorado. It's not like that would have been a guaranteed another win. Would have improved our SOS, sure. But not necessarily our RPI. I'd rather have a loss in the 0-50 category than have one in the 150+ category. Completely agree. But you also might have gone 1-2 after you beat Hawaii and it really would have been a wash effect on the RPI if you ask me. RPIWizard says if we had beaten Hawaii, then lost to Wichita State and Colorado, our RPI would be 112 right now and we'd be 12-10. Instead, we are 13-9 and our RPI is 103. Even had we beaten Colorado, our RPI would be 99, only 4 spots better. So you are correct. Where this team really hurt its chances this season was Incarnate Word and Creighton. A stretch of four fateful days in December in our own arena. At least Nebraska came back and won that double OT game vs Cincinnati!! The most difficult of the 3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmykc Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Cincinnati beat an excellent Larry Brown SMU team at home last night. They looked so inept the first twelve minutes that I turned the game off and was shocked when I read the morning paper. As Walter Sobchak might say, AM I THE ONLY ONE AROUND HERE WHO THINKS THAT SHOULD MEAN SOMETHING ABOUT OUR TEAM. AuroranHusker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Did you just guess your own avatar jimmy??? Silverbacked1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmykc Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Honor belongs to cwg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroranHusker Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Honor belongs to cwg. Who might be today's Walter??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmykc Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 My next Walter will pose more of a challenge than Mr. Sobchak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerFever Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Just remember, we could easily be 154 instead of 104 as well. The law of averages seems to work magic at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted February 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Just remember, we could easily be 154 instead of 104 as well. The law of averages seems to work magic at times. Some teams overachieve. Some underachieve. Would you accuse this team of overachieving when you compare our talent level to our win/loss record? Or do you think we've won about as many games we should have lost as we've lost games we should have won? Maybe you haven't been following the board, but there's been a lot of angst about how much worse this team is than it was a year ago and suggesting that last year was a fluke and a one year flash in the pan. And I'm saying there were a couple of hiccups this season where we clearly lost to inferior teams and you take away those losses and we'd be about where everyone would have expected us to be this season. In other words, we ain't that bad. Except for a couple of hiccups, this is about the team we thought we'd have. That's been my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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