Swan88 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Tom Shatel has an interesting article in today's Omaha World-Herald titled, "Miles in rumor mill is hint of Huskers' relevance." Here are a few blurbs: "The Nebraska men's basketball program grew up last week. Did you see it? A college hoops guru wrote a note online that said to expect Missouri to go after Nebraska coach Tim Miles for its basketball opening. There's a sentence I didn't think I'd ever read in my lifetime. Or any lifetime. . . . Now, Kentucky or Kansas haven't called. But the fact is, a job like Missouri or Tennessee can't lure away the Nebraska basketball coach. There's another one of those weird sentences. . . . Perception is everything in college sports. And the perception of Husker Hoops changed last season, and then again last week. The common denominator is the guy flying to Minneapolis. Don't worry, he promises to return. » Darn. I forgot to ask Miles if he has heard from Phil Jackson yet." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickey Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 While I could not agree with TS's thoughts on TM staying here more...I can't help but wonder if he read my post from a month ago when I responded to Norm's concern of TM leaving for greener pastures by responding in part with: "Coaches look for schools with better conference...Miles, check! Coaches look for schools with better facilities...Miles, check! Coaches look for schools with great fan bases...Miles, check! Coaches look for schools close to their family...Miles, check! Coaches look for schools with access to best recruits...OK, here we are challenged...but not nearly comparable to the football model that needs 25 to 30 recruits a year. Miles only needs 3 to 4 a year. Miles can do this. Lincoln is transforming itself into a relatively hip town! as the Haymarket evolves. Weather won't stop good athletes. Bo Ryan gets them to Madison. Tom Izzo to Lansing. Finally, coaches look for schools with the ability and willingness to spend $$$...Miles, check! Don't worry, SE gets it. I believe Miles has the ability and foresight to treat NU, not as a stepping stone, but rather a final destination. He does not need to follow another coach anywhere else...when the ultimate destination can be achieved by leading players here." In any event, Miles is here for a good stretch of time. If Izzo can stay at MSU and Ryan at Wisky...it is fair to assume the Miles family can grow and prosper in Lincoln. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhcmatt Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Miles Miles won't leave before one of two things happen: 1. He wins 20+ games and 1-2 NCAA tourney games 2. He's fired tcp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskerpapa Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Good article. It is nice to have a coach that is wanted. It is nice to be relevent. Silverbacked1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concrete Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I think we have Miles until Shields/Petteway/Pitchford are gone. We're going to have to hope he gets some really good recruits to commit in the meantime, otherwise he might think he caught lightning in a bottle with those guys and go somewhere that he can actually recruit to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeHoops Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I think we have Miles until Shields/Petteway/Pitchford are gone. We're going to have to hope he gets some really good recruits to commit in the meantime, otherwise he might think he caught lightning in a bottle with those guys and go somewhere that he can actually recruit to. I respectfully disagree. He has consistently shown that he can recruit the kind of guys he needs to help him turn a program around. Plus he has obviously been able to get those guys to buy into his vision and plan, much like he did here. He did this at previous stops with woefully less than he has to sell here. I seen no reason why TM can't finally start landing those real difference makers that will take this program to level of success it has not seen before. trickey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concrete Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I think we have Miles until Shields/Petteway/Pitchford are gone. We're going to have to hope he gets some really good recruits to commit in the meantime, otherwise he might think he caught lightning in a bottle with those guys and go somewhere that he can actually recruit to. I respectfully disagree. He has consistently shown that he can recruit the kind of guys he needs to help him turn a program around. Plus he has obviously been able to get those guys to buy into his vision and plan, much like he did here. He did this at previous stops with woefully less than he has to sell here. I seen no reason why TM can't finally start landing those real difference makers that will take this program to level of success it has not seen before. I'm not discrediting Miles at all. There's no doubt in my mind that he has what it takes and knows how to get the guys here that we need. My concern is entirely with Nebraska and if we have what it takes to be a sustainable power in college basketball. Miles is too good of a coach to be shackled in areas he can't control (eg location). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneblinstu Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I think we have Miles until Shields/Petteway/Pitchford are gone. We're going to have to hope he gets some really good recruits to commit in the meantime, otherwise he might think he caught lightning in a bottle with those guys and go somewhere that he can actually recruit to. I respectfully disagree. He has consistently shown that he can recruit the kind of guys he needs to help him turn a program around. Plus he has obviously been able to get those guys to buy into his vision and plan, much like he did here. He did this at previous stops with woefully less than he has to sell here. I seen no reason why TM can't finally start landing those real difference makers that will take this program to level of success it has not seen before. I'm not discrediting Miles at all. There's no doubt in my mind that he has what it takes and knows how to get the guys here that we need. My concern is entirely with Nebraska and if we have what it takes to be a sustainable power in college basketball. Miles is too good of a coach to be shackled in areas he can't control (eg location). Pay the man like it's a top job and it'll end nearly every conversation about him jumping to another job except one of the top elite jobs. Neebraska and Silverbacked1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Miles Miles won't leave before one of two things happen: 1. He wins 20+ games and 1-2 NCAA tourney games 2. He's fired Well, the first one of those items is going to happen next year, so ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhusker Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 He wins here and that will be a statue of Tim Miles outside the arena. There is no reason Nebraska can't win at basketball. No we don't have a plethora of D1 talent in basketball every year like other locations but kids from other places will come to Lincoln if the coach can sell them and mom on the benefits. Heck Missouri produces a bunch of D1 basketball players and their roster from this year featured 3 (one redshirting after transferring back from Notre Dame, one that played significant minutes and one that was seldom used (another transfer back). Kids will travel if they perceive playing time and a chance to get to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbacked1 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Miles Miles won't leave before one of two things happen: 1. He wins 20+ games and 1-2 NCAA tourney games 2. He's fired Well, the first one of those items is going to happen next year, so ... What wait, Norm Why would we fire Tim next year!!? 49r 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handy Johnson Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 When we break through on the NCAA drought, and we will, it's going to be a BIG TIME run. Elite 8 or beyond, not just one or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handy Johnson Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 As a sidebar, WHO was Miles visiting in Minnesota? And, as far as Missouri goes, Doc Sadler had a winning record against them. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Tigers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerFever Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I think we have Miles until Shields/Petteway/Pitchford are gone. We're going to have to hope he gets some really good recruits to commit in the meantime, otherwise he might think he caught lightning in a bottle with those guys and go somewhere that he can actually recruit to. I guess that's what we pay him the big bucks for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskerpapa Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I am of the opinion that this constitutes a destination job for Coach Miles. For him to leave, and I am sure eventually he will leave OR retire , it would be an offer and location that is simply off the charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhcmatt Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Pay the man like it's a top job and it'll end nearly every conversation about him jumping to another job except one of the top elite jobs. He'll be making 2.15 mil by 2017-18. That's Bo Ryan money. I'd argue that you'd set him up for backlash if he fails to live up to expectations. I think he will but how what will be the public opinion if we only make the NIT this year? What is more likely to get him out of Lincoln, the lure of big money somewhere or the torch and pitchfork guys that spend most of their time on football? Once again, let the man get through year 3-4 of a 7 year contract and then decide to bump it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Pay the man like it's a top job and it'll end nearly every conversation about him jumping to another job except one of the top elite jobs. He'll be making 2.15 mil by 2017-18. That's Bo Ryan money. I'd argue that you'd set him up for backlash if he fails to live up to expectations. I think he will but how what will be the public opinion if we only make the NIT this year? What is more likely to get him out of Lincoln, the lure of big money somewhere or the torch and pitchfork guys that spend most of their time on football? Once again, let the man get through year 3-4 of a 7 year contract and then decide to bump it. I will bet you money that he'll be at 2.15m before 2017. Especially if PBA continues to stay sold out. AuroranHusker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 As a sidebar, WHO was Miles visiting in Minnesota? And, as far as Missouri goes, Doc Sadler had a winning record against them. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Tigers! Alex Illikainen, I believe. Also, am I the only one who'd want Craig Smith to get a hard look if Miles were to move on some day? I really have a high opinion of him. Silverbacked1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 As a sidebar, WHO was Miles visiting in Minnesota? And, as far as Missouri goes, Doc Sadler had a winning record against them. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Tigers! Alex Illikainen, I believe. Also, am I the only one who'd want Craig Smith to get a hard look if Miles were to move on some day? I really have a high opinion of him. I would think it's the obvious choice. Particularly if he has some success at USD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhcmatt Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Pay the man like it's a top job and it'll end nearly every conversation about him jumping to another job except one of the top elite jobs. He'll be making 2.15 mil by 2017-18. That's Bo Ryan money. I'd argue that you'd set him up for backlash if he fails to live up to expectations. I think he will but how what will be the public opinion if we only make the NIT this year? What is more likely to get him out of Lincoln, the lure of big money somewhere or the torch and pitchfork guys that spend most of their time on football? Once again, let the man get through year 3-4 of a 7 year contract and then decide to bump it. I will bet you money that he'll be at 2.15m before 2017. Especially if PBA continues to stay sold out. My point is that Miles isn't underpaid at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Pay the man like it's a top job and it'll end nearly every conversation about him jumping to another job except one of the top elite jobs. He'll be making 2.15 mil by 2017-18. That's Bo Ryan money. I'd argue that you'd set him up for backlash if he fails to live up to expectations. I think he will but how what will be the public opinion if we only make the NIT this year? What is more likely to get him out of Lincoln, the lure of big money somewhere or the torch and pitchfork guys that spend most of their time on football? Once again, let the man get through year 3-4 of a 7 year contract and then decide to bump it. I will bet you money that he'll be at 2.15m before 2017. Especially if PBA continues to stay sold out. My point is that Miles isn't underpaid at the moment. Probably not, no. But if he was making $1.8 right now he wouldn't be overpaid, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhcmatt Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Pay the man like it's a top job and it'll end nearly every conversation about him jumping to another job except one of the top elite jobs. He'll be making 2.15 mil by 2017-18. That's Bo Ryan money. I'd argue that you'd set him up for backlash if he fails to live up to expectations. I think he will but how what will be the public opinion if we only make the NIT this year? What is more likely to get him out of Lincoln, the lure of big money somewhere or the torch and pitchfork guys that spend most of their time on football? Once again, let the man get through year 3-4 of a 7 year contract and then decide to bump it. I will bet you money that he'll be at 2.15m before 2017. Especially if PBA continues to stay sold out. My point is that Miles isn't underpaid at the moment. Probably not, no. But if he was making $1.8 right now he wouldn't be overpaid, either. He made 1.775 mil last year with bonuses. If he makes the tourney again he'll hit 1.8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Pay the man like it's a top job and it'll end nearly every conversation about him jumping to another job except one of the top elite jobs. He'll be making 2.15 mil by 2017-18. That's Bo Ryan money. I'd argue that you'd set him up for backlash if he fails to live up to expectations. I think he will but how what will be the public opinion if we only make the NIT this year? What is more likely to get him out of Lincoln, the lure of big money somewhere or the torch and pitchfork guys that spend most of their time on football? Once again, let the man get through year 3-4 of a 7 year contract and then decide to bump it. I will bet you money that he'll be at 2.15m before 2017. Especially if PBA continues to stay sold out. My point is that Miles isn't underpaid at the moment. Probably not, no. But if he was making $1.8 right now he wouldn't be overpaid, either. He made 1.775 mil last year with bonuses. If he makes the tourney again he'll hit 1.8 I meant $1.8 as the base salary not being out of line right now given his accomplishments at NU. Anyway...point is, if he keeps having success at Nebraska (he should) and if PBA continues to sell out (it will), it would shock me if his contract isn't adjusted before 2017 rolls around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Pay the man like it's a top job and it'll end nearly every conversation about him jumping to another job except one of the top elite jobs. He'll be making 2.15 mil by 2017-18. That's Bo Ryan money. I'd argue that you'd set him up for backlash if he fails to live up to expectations. I think he will but how what will be the public opinion if we only make the NIT this year? What is more likely to get him out of Lincoln, the lure of big money somewhere or the torch and pitchfork guys that spend most of their time on football? Once again, let the man get through year 3-4 of a 7 year contract and then decide to bump it. I will bet you money that he'll be at 2.15m before 2017. Especially if PBA continues to stay sold out. My point is that Miles isn't underpaid at the moment. Probably not, no. But if he was making $1.8 right now he wouldn't be overpaid, either. He made 1.775 mil last year with bonuses. If he makes the tourney again he'll hit 1.8 I meant $1.8 as the base salary not being out of line right now given his accomplishments at NU. Anyway...point is, if he keeps having success at Nebraska (he should) and if PBA continues to sell out (it will), it would shock me if his contract isn't adjusted before 2017 rolls around. That's what I assumed you meant from the very beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handy Johnson Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 As a sidebar, WHO was Miles visiting in Minnesota? And, as far as Missouri goes, Doc Sadler had a winning record against them. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Tigers! Alex Illikainen, I believe. Also, am I the only one who'd want Craig Smith to get a hard look if Miles were to move on some day? I really have a high opinion of him. Thanks Hooper, I bet you're right. We've still have a good chance with this kid, especially since Richie Pitino is going to Missouri (ha ha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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