AW-III IS BACK FOR HIS SENIOR SEASON (SOMEWHERE)

[CrazyforNUHOOPS]

AW III just got his diploma and walked in front of me. I somehow resisted the urge to yell "Come Back Andrew!"

...if he leaves, I'm blaming you!

We actually did that with TP!!! Actually gave him a congratulatory hug and told him we would look forward to his last year. That didn't work out so well. More to the story, we actually sat right next to the family of David Rivers. His Dad was a bit gruff at first, but after a few minutes he warmed up to us and we had a lengthy and great conversation. Of course he then passed away soon thereafter. Sad.

Edit: Nvmnd. Read post incorrectly.

[Nighthawk]

Did he remove the comment or am I just blind? I see the picture...but I see no comment from him.

[AuroranHusker]

Did he remove the comment or am I just blind? I see the picture...but I see no comment from him.

 

It is a second picture on his twitter post. Click on the tweet.

[HB]

 

 

AW III just got his diploma and walked in front of me. I somehow resisted the urge to yell "Come Back Andrew!"

 

...if he leaves, I'm blaming you!

 

We actually did that with TP!!!  Actually gave him a congratulatory hug and told him we would look forward to his last year.  That didn't work out so well.  More to the story, we actually sat right next to the family of David Rivers.  His Dad was a bit gruff at first, but after a few minutes he warmed up to us and we had a lengthy and great conversation.  Of course he then passed away soon thereafter.  Sad. 

 

 

Speaking of graduation:  Doc Sadler's son Landon graduated from UNL yesterday with highest distinction.  That is a pretty cool story.

[kldm64]

I'd take Andrew White III in our program any day of the week.....even if it means for only 1 year.  This kid is a poster child of what it means to be a student athlete.

[basketballjones]

I'd put him at 84.34% gone - regardless of what draft people tell him.

No inside info. Just gut instinct.

[colhusker]

If true, three empty scholarships this late in the game is not good.

[bobcat402]

Saw him at the outlet mall with his family, seemed to be in good Sprits

[huskerbaseball13]

If true, three empty scholarships this late in the game is not good.

+1 Transfer who has to sit out next year. Leaving us with 9 players on scholarship who are eligible to play. That's assuming no commits come in before Andrew would announce his decision to leave. Hopefully, he decides to stay...if not, things will get interesting.

[hhcmatt]

Hmmmmm... Kermit may need to make an appearance after all.

 

Like if White decides to play professionally it's mainly because he hates Miles and not because he believes he can make it onto a NBA squad or somewhere in the pros?

[lanigan123]

Hmmmmm... Kermit may need to make an appearance after all.

Like if White decides to play professionally it's mainly because he hates Miles and not because he believes he can make it onto a NBA squad or somewhere in the pros?

Please tell me why you believe he makes an NBA squad. Yes, especially when my source said he is tired of the sideshow and just wants to play ball. Keep in mind when I say that, it is know who AW is as a person. How many guys leave early to go play in Europe? Watson in Omaha is a better player than White, it's NBA or college not Professional anywhere over college.What's the lifestyle of a Euro ball player like... I've heard mixed things on it.

The reality will be we lost an good college player, on top of all the coaching changes and challenged in a time period of unquestionable support for the program from the school and fans. I will still support the program but my outlook of where I see Tim Miles getting this program before he leaves.

[49r]

Your "source" wouldn't happen to be the Bluejay Underground, by any chance would it?

[bball23]

 

 

Hmmmmm... Kermit may need to make an appearance after all.

Like if White decides to play professionally it's mainly because he hates Miles and not because he believes he can make it onto a NBA squad or somewhere in the pros?

Please tell me why you believe he makes an NBA squad. Yes, especially when my source said he is tired of the sideshow and just wants to play ball. Keep in mind when I say that, it is know who AW is as a person. How many guys leave early to go play in Europe? Watson in Omaha is a better player than White, it's NBA or college not Professional anywhere over college.What's the lifestyle of a Euro ball player like... I've heard mixed things on it.

The reality will be we lost an good college player, on top of all the coaching changes and challenged in a time period of unquestionable support for the program from the school and fans. I will still support the program but my outlook of where I see Tim Miles getting this program before he leaves.

 

Not a lot of players leave early to play overseas.  The big difference here is that he has already graduated.  So he has his degree in hand.  Now he has a chance to possibly make some good $ either in the NBA or overseas.  If it is overseas, that gives him some good competition to go against and maybe better himself while making a decent paycheck? 

 

I really hope AWIII comes back, but I can understand if he doesn't. 

[hhcmatt]

 

 

Hmmmmm... Kermit may need to make an appearance after all.

Like if White decides to play professionally it's mainly because he hates Miles and not because he believes he can make it onto a NBA squad or somewhere in the pros?

Please tell me why you believe he makes an NBA squad. Yes, especially when my source said he is tired of the sideshow and just wants to play ball. Keep in mind when I say that, it is know who AW is as a person. How many guys leave early to go play in Europe? Watson in Omaha is a better player than White, it's NBA or college not Professional anywhere over college.What's the lifestyle of a Euro ball player like... I've heard mixed things on it.

The reality will be we lost an good college player, on top of all the coaching changes and challenged in a time period of unquestionable support for the program from the school and fans. I will still support the program but my outlook of where I see Tim Miles getting this program before he leaves.

 

 

That's not White's only two options though...if his main motivation he hates it here at Nebraska he can grad transfer almost anywhere in the country. 

 

Look, I don't disbelieve that he's ever said he's "tired of the sideshow" as much as I can discern the difference between taking everything in a black and white view vs a guy giving himself justifications for making what very well could be a questionable decision about going pro.

[ajb5856]

Hmmmmm... Kermit may need to make an appearance after all.

Like if White decides to play professionally it's mainly because he hates Miles and not because he believes he can make it onto a NBA squad or somewhere in the pros?

Please tell me why you believe he makes an NBA squad. Yes, especially when my source said he is tired of the sideshow and just wants to play ball. Keep in mind when I say that, it is know who AW is as a person. How many guys leave early to go play in Europe? Watson in Omaha is a better player than White, it's NBA or college not Professional anywhere over college.What's the lifestyle of a Euro ball player like... I've heard mixed things on it.

The reality will be we lost an good college player, on top of all the coaching changes and challenged in a time period of unquestionable support for the program from the school and fans. I will still support the program but my outlook of where I see Tim Miles getting this program before he leaves.

Ok, ok, ok...everyone's heard the 'cherry on top' of 'all the departures' and 'coaching changes' thing over and over again as a reason to doubt the direction of the program. I don't doubt that you've heard things. But when are those real concerns versus simply a product of losing games? Are things actually going on or are people looking to give reasons?

White leaving would be a blow. Petteway when he left wasn't a huge surprise. Have any other significant players left? Has our turnover been more than average?

As for the coaching departures....

1) Ben Jacobson. Left for his alma mater.

2) Craig Smith. Left to become a head coach.

3) Chris Harriman. Left for New Mexico. This is the one departure I can see being in question.

4) Burno. Left to work with a buddy. Also had heard Miles helped him on out after Miles learned of his habit of paying recruits.

5) Phil Beckner. It was told to me that the guy was an absolute freak show and needed to be gone. The guy didn't get along with the rest of the staff and was a real a-hole to the players. Miles actually offered him the chance to come back with major adjustments to his attitude and Beckner decided to phone a friend.

Basically what I'm getting at is that the last two years have sucked. Losing leaves everyone grasping for answers. Losing White would suck but would anyone be looking for reasons on scandal within the program if we were coming off a 20 win season and then White announces he is declaring? Probably not. Everyone would be wishing him luck and at the same time hoping he returns, not doing the "I heard from someone what White's true opinion of Coach Miles is".

[huskerbaseball13]

 

 

Hmmmmm... Kermit may need to make an appearance after all.

Like if White decides to play professionally it's mainly because he hates Miles and not because he believes he can make it onto a NBA squad or somewhere in the pros?

Please tell me why you believe he makes an NBA squad. Yes, especially when my source said he is tired of the sideshow and just wants to play ball. Keep in mind when I say that, it is know who AW is as a person. How many guys leave early to go play in Europe? Watson in Omaha is a better player than White, it's NBA or college not Professional anywhere over college.What's the lifestyle of a Euro ball player like... I've heard mixed things on it.

The reality will be we lost an good college player, on top of all the coaching changes and challenged in a time period of unquestionable support for the program from the school and fans. I will still support the program but my outlook of where I see Tim Miles getting this program before he leaves.

 

 

That's debatable and I'm not really sure how you can even compare the two considering they are two entirely different players.  Also, I would argue White is a better NBA "like" prospect as not many NBA teams are in the market for a 5'9 PG that can't shoot.  On the other hand...a 6'7 forward who can shoot and rebound will always get a look from NBA teams.  It doesn't have to be NBA or College...in fact, I would not blame White at all if he decided to go overseas and start earning a nice paycheck.  You only have a certain amount of years before you hang up the sneakers.  The fact that we will be in bad position if White bolts is not on him but Miles roster management. 

[Huskerpapa]

I guess my fears may be coming true.  If, as feared, Drew leaves, my next concern is whether or not there will be another domino or two that may fall.  Man...I want stability...and soon.

[AuroranHusker]

 

 

 

Hmmmmm... Kermit may need to make an appearance after all.

Like if White decides to play professionally it's mainly because he hates Miles and not because he believes he can make it onto a NBA squad or somewhere in the pros?

Please tell me why you believe he makes an NBA squad. Yes, especially when my source said he is tired of the sideshow and just wants to play ball. Keep in mind when I say that, it is know who AW is as a person. How many guys leave early to go play in Europe? Watson in Omaha is a better player than White, it's NBA or college not Professional anywhere over college.What's the lifestyle of a Euro ball player like... I've heard mixed things on it.

The reality will be we lost an good college player, on top of all the coaching changes and challenged in a time period of unquestionable support for the program from the school and fans. I will still support the program but my outlook of where I see Tim Miles getting this program before he leaves.

Ok, ok, ok...everyone's heard the 'cherry on top' of 'all the departures' and 'coaching changes' thing over and over again as a reason to doubt the direction of the program. I don't doubt that you've heard things. But when are those real concerns versus simply a product of losing games? Are things actually going on or are people looking to give reasons?

White leaving would be a blow. Petteway when he left wasn't a huge surprise. Have any other significant players left? Has our turnover been more than average?

As for the coaching departures....

1) Ben Jacobson. Left for his alma mater.

2) Craig Smith. Left to become a head coach.

3) Chris Harriman. Left for New Mexico. This is the one departure I can see being in question.

4) Burno. Left to work with a buddy. Also had heard Miles helped him on out after Miles learned of his habit of paying recruits.

5) Phil Beckner. It was told to me that the guy was an absolute freak show and needed to be gone. The guy didn't get along with the rest of the staff and was a real a-hole to the players. Miles actually offered him the chance to come back with major adjustments to his attitude and Beckner decided to phone a friend.

Basically what I'm getting at is that the last two years have sucked. Losing leaves everyone grasping for answers. Losing White would suck but would anyone be looking for reasons on scandal within the program if we were coming off a 20 win season and then White announces he is declaring? Probably not. Everyone would be wishing him luck and at the same time hoping he returns, not doing the "I heard from someone what White's true opinion of Coach Miles is".

 

 

Instead of Ben Jacobson (who is Northern Iowa's HC), it was Ben Johnson but not the guy who doped to win gold in the Olympic 100.

[ajb5856]

Hmmmmm... Kermit may need to make an appearance after all.

Like if White decides to play professionally it's mainly because he hates Miles and not because he believes he can make it onto a NBA squad or somewhere in the pros?

Please tell me why you believe he makes an NBA squad. Yes, especially when my source said he is tired of the sideshow and just wants to play ball. Keep in mind when I say that, it is know who AW is as a person. How many guys leave early to go play in Europe? Watson in Omaha is a better player than White, it's NBA or college not Professional anywhere over college.What's the lifestyle of a Euro ball player like... I've heard mixed things on it.

The reality will be we lost an good college player, on top of all the coaching changes and challenged in a time period of unquestionable support for the program from the school and fans. I will still support the program but my outlook of where I see Tim Miles getting this program before he leaves.

Ok, ok, ok...everyone's heard the 'cherry on top' of 'all the departures' and 'coaching changes' thing over and over again as a reason to doubt the direction of the program. I don't doubt that you've heard things. But when are those real concerns versus simply a product of losing games? Are things actually going on or are people looking to give reasons?

White leaving would be a blow. Petteway when he left wasn't a huge surprise. Have any other significant players left? Has our turnover been more than average?

As for the coaching departures....

1) Ben Jacobson. Left for his alma mater.

2) Craig Smith. Left to become a head coach.

3) Chris Harriman. Left for New Mexico. This is the one departure I can see being in question.

4) Burno. Left to work with a buddy. Also had heard Miles helped him on out after Miles learned of his habit of paying recruits.

5) Phil Beckner. It was told to me that the guy was an absolute freak show and needed to be gone. The guy didn't get along with the rest of the staff and was a real a-hole to the players. Miles actually offered him the chance to come back with major adjustments to his attitude and Beckner decided to phone a friend.

Basically what I'm getting at is that the last two years have sucked. Losing leaves everyone grasping for answers. Losing White would suck but would anyone be looking for reasons on scandal within the program if we were coming off a 20 win season and then White announces he is declaring? Probably not. Everyone would be wishing him luck and at the same time hoping he returns, not doing the "I heard from someone what White's true opinion of Coach Miles is".

Instead of Ben Jacobson (who is Northern Iowa's HC), it was Ben Johnson but not the guy who doped to win gold in the Olympic 100.

Yeah, that guy. Benny J

[doc1394]

I wouldn't put your hand on the panic button just yet, Andrew won't be going to Europe, and he's not leaving unless he's certain he will be drafted

[hhcmatt]

 

[huskerbaseball13]

I wouldn't put your hand on the panic button just yet, Andrew won't be going to Europe, and he's not leaving unless he's certain he will be drafted

 

 

I hope you're right.  With how the roster currently stands I don't think we can afford to lose him for next year.  Outside of Andrew and the coaching staff I doubt anyone really has any concrete information as if he really was set on leaving we would know by now and he would likely have inked with an agent. 

[1sdpad2]

I'd have to say the tweet from White's dad leads me to believe Andrew is gone.  I have no inside info.  I've only observed the relationship between Kent and White throughout last season.  It was cool seeing Kent and Andrew fist bump before a few games.

 

[lanigan123]

Hmmmmm... Kermit may need to make an appearance after all.

Like if White decides to play professionally it's mainly because he hates Miles and not because he believes he can make it onto a NBA squad or somewhere in the pros?

Please tell me why you believe he makes an NBA squad. Yes, especially when my source said he is tired of the sideshow and just wants to play ball. Keep in mind when I say that, it is know who AW is as a person. How many guys leave early to go play in Europe? Watson in Omaha is a better player than White, it's NBA or college not Professional anywhere over college.What's the lifestyle of a Euro ball player like... I've heard mixed things on it.

The reality will be we lost an good college player, on top of all the coaching changes and challenged in a time period of unquestionable support for the program from the school and fans. I will still support the program but my outlook of where I see Tim Miles getting this program before he leaves.

That's not White's only two options though...if his main motivation he hates it here at Nebraska he can grad transfer almost anywhere in the country.

Look, I don't disbelieve that he's ever said he's "tired of the sideshow" as much as I can discern the difference between taking everything in a black and white view vs a guy giving himself justifications for making what very well could be a questionable decision about going pro.

Maybe because he understands and respects what Nebraska has given him? If the end game is professional basketball, does it help him to go play somewhere else in college? I can't read his mind, I do recognize he is bright.

[lanigan123]

Hmmmmm... Kermit may need to make an appearance after all.

Like if White decides to play professionally it's mainly because he hates Miles and not because he believes he can make it onto a NBA squad or somewhere in the pros?

Please tell me why you believe he makes an NBA squad. Yes, especially when my source said he is tired of the sideshow and just wants to play ball. Keep in mind when I say that, it is know who AW is as a person. How many guys leave early to go play in Europe? Watson in Omaha is a better player than White, it's NBA or college not Professional anywhere over college.What's the lifestyle of a Euro ball player like... I've heard mixed things on it.

The reality will be we lost an good college player, on top of all the coaching changes and challenged in a time period of unquestionable support for the program from the school and fans. I will still support the program but my outlook of where I see Tim Miles getting this program before he leaves.

Ok, ok, ok...everyone's heard the 'cherry on top' of 'all the departures' and 'coaching changes' thing over and over again as a reason to doubt the direction of the program. I don't doubt that you've heard things. But when are those real concerns versus simply a product of losing games? Are things actually going on or are people looking to give reasons?

White leaving would be a blow. Petteway when he left wasn't a huge surprise. Have any other significant players left? Has our turnover been more than average?

As for the coaching departures....

1) Ben Jacobson. Left for his alma mater.

2) Craig Smith. Left to become a head coach.

3) Chris Harriman. Left for New Mexico. This is the one departure I can see being in question.

4) Burno. Left to work with a buddy. Also had heard Miles helped him on out after Miles learned of his habit of paying recruits.

5) Phil Beckner. It was told to me that the guy was an absolute freak show and needed to be gone. The guy didn't get along with the rest of the staff and was a real a-hole to the players. Miles actually offered him the chance to come back with major adjustments to his attitude and Beckner decided to phone a friend.

Basically what I'm getting at is that the last two years have sucked. Losing leaves everyone grasping for answers. Losing White would suck but would anyone be looking for reasons on scandal within the program if we were coming off a 20 win season and then White announces he is declaring? Probably not. Everyone would be wishing him luck and at the same time hoping he returns, not doing the "I heard from someone what White's true opinion of Coach Miles is".

Losing sucks.

yes some bad luck but everything from Harriman down is completely in the coaches control. Even with Harriman leaving. Tim Hired all of those guys. I did in fact justify all of them. I have no thirst for being right. In fact I want the opposite as I have a 100 dollar bet with someone that Nebraska would make the tourney this year. My source is not anything to do with Creighton. I hope White goes through this process and realizes his next year here is equally as important to his NBA chances. I don't buy the limited tread life as far as playing in Europe is concerned. Damon Stoudamire is still playing in China.